The question for firefox was never been is it fast. The question for firefox was always “why its using 10GB RAM?”
Good job! My FF with 10+ extensions only use 493mb with 4 tabs opened. What am I doing wrong?
Just opening wikipedia pages.
Firefox's JIT is getting significantly faster
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Re: Firefox's JIT is getting significantly faster
#282It's sad how these valuable optimizations are unknown to the average person. When I hear "the browser" discussed in almost any parlance, the implication is Chrome. It's rare to even hear someone say "Chrome," as it's the defacto choice for the non-mobile web. Convenience breeds ignorance.
What are you taking about?
Warp is only a bit faster in some cases, and about 10% slower in typical benchmark code. The speed improvements don't come from optimizations, but from skipping many costly optimizations. The "value" of these skipped optimizations is that some type optimizations are just too costly for them, using also a lot of memory. It's a typical jit trade-off.
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#283Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you think that focusing on more unsexy things would have helped? It seems to me that it's fundamentally a marketing problem. Many people are not even aware that Firefox exists, despite it being basically as good as Chrome, and in some ways considerably better.
ultimately if there value , word of mouth works pretty well . Firefox does not have a brand visibility problem , no amount of marketing will convince users if the browser is not significantly better. If the value is marginal convenience trumps. Firefox did not gain market share orginally because they did better marketing than IE. They became big because they built a better product. Chrome became because of the same r…
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#284Sounds like a challenge! Time to write JavaScript that's even more questionable.
I see it differently. It allows even lesser skilled folks to build a site or app. If browsers performed like in 2010[1],we wouldnt have a lot of apps online. I am not talking about unicorn SaaS apps. I am talking about the local county or state government making things available online. The small business putting an app together beyond a basic website. It may not seem much to you but there is real and massive impact…
> It allows even lesser skilled folks to build a site
It does not take more skill to build a site without JS, only more restraint
> If browsers performed like in 2010[1],we wouldnt have a lot of apps online. I am not talking about unicorn SaaS apps. I am talking about the local county or state government making things available online. The small business putting an app together beyond a basic website.
Less "apps" and more "basic" websites is exactly what should be encouraged.
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#285Is there any way to directly donate to firefox (and not other mozilla related things)?
If some ex-Mozilla devs would set up a Patreon (or other platform) to work exclusively on Firefox I would donate.
Basically do the same as Godot, Blender, etc. small team but focused on the project
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#286Earlier quoted context omitted.
In order for the two-company Foundation/Corporation system to be even remotely legal, they must actually operate as distinct entities. That means the Foundation and the Corporation have separate bank accounts, separate employee rosters, and, as a result, they can legally be taxed differently. If the Foundation started employing Firefox developers, they would have to convince the tax man that those developers were not…
It's not that complicated. The Corporation sends the Foundation a significant chunk of money every year as "royalties" for the use of the name and logo. If the Foundation wants to pay for a few more developers, they can just decrease the "royalty" charges.
The royalty charges can never be negative. This isn’t currently a problem, since MozCo gets more search money than MoFo gets from donations, but for anyone who dreams of Firefox becoming totally unconnected with Google, it makes this an unsatisfying non-solution.