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Mexican states are moving to ban the sale of junk food to children

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Re: Mexican states are moving to ban the sale of junk food to children

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>These products should be outright banned. Folks can make wonderful pastries at home. Sugar is sugar. What's the difference between a homemade pastry and store bought pastry?

The amount of sugar in them, very often.

You can certainly buy low-sugar/no-sugar commercial goods. You can also bake pastries with extra sugar. Quantity of sugar does matter but sugar is sugar.

Re: Mexican states are moving to ban the sale of junk food to children

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*refined sugar, not all sugar. sugar in a whole fruit aren't bad, the fibers in the fruit help your body break down and absorb the sugar over a longer period of time. just don't eat refined food.

Any kind of concentrated sugar product is going to be unhealthy regardless of the process that got it there. Fresh squeezed orange juice and honey aren't refined, but they're still much too sweet to be consuming large quantities of.

squeezing juice out of an orange is a level of refinement. You are reducing a whole food to separate components, much like pulling iron out of ore. It's weird to think of it as a refined food but it is to a degree.

I wouldn't classify it as a processed food, but maybe that's where people conflate the terms.

Re: Mexican states are moving to ban the sale of junk food to children

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post #248

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Mexico has Jarritos, Sabritos, Barcel, and lots of other local brands that are much more prevalent than their American counterparts. If Coca-Cola, Frito-Lay, and McDonalds all vanished suddenly, it would not significantly change the diet of most Mexicanos. You might be able to formulate a coherent hippie rant about "corporate food" but it isn't a specifically American phenomenon.

It's unclear whether all of those soft-drinks would be as successful as they are if Coca-Cola didn't open up that market though.

"Open up the market"?? Maybe you're thinking of Cortez?

You obviously aren't that familiar with the subject since Jarritos is the only soft drink in that list (the others are snack brands). I feel there's an undercurrent of paternalistic racism in this thread - "those noble naive Mexicans would be so healthy if they only hadn't been enslaved to imperialist American fast food corporations!"

Mexico is a whole country full of educated, modern, free-thinking individuals with their own strong, vibrant culture. They're incredibly proud of it. They have their own tastes and their own products serving those tastes and yes, they struggle with dietary health just like everyone else in the world. Walk up to a native Mexican sometime and tell them that they only like pan dulce because Americans have brainwashed them, see how well that goes over.

Re: Mexican states are moving to ban the sale of junk food to children

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This is a good idea, and the people in the comments are rightly pointing out sugar's problems. But just as problematic as sugar are vegetable oils which are in almost every packaged product you can buy at the grocery store. They cause all sorts of health problems because the vegetable oils are extremely reactive (due to being unsaturated fats and so having double bonds that can react with other molecules inside your…

That goes against everything I've been told about the types of fats. How much evidence is there for this?

OP here is correct. PUFAs are the baddies. This is way too large a subject for me to even try backing up atm but I do recommend you do research into it.

Re: Mexican states are moving to ban the sale of junk food to children

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post #64

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You can choose to put less sugar in your homemade pastries. I sometimes bake cookies at home and I use less than half the "recommended" sugar amount, and they still taste sweet. I've never really liked commercial sweet baked food because the high amount of sugar causes a "burning" sensation when I eat them.

You can also buy sugar free pastries. You can also add extra sugar when you bake your pastries. I don't understand how this invalidates my point that sugar is sugar. That there is no difference between sugar in commercial goods, and sugar you add when you bake at home.

Sure, I think the parallel you're trying to draw is that you can also buy diet coke instead of regular coke, but many will vehemently argue that it's not the same thing.

I'm sure given enough effort, I _could_ find cookies made with half the sugar and dark chocolate, but if you asked me right now, I honestly couldn't tell you where to find such a thing, let alone at a price comparable to run-off-the-mill chips ahoy (never mind the cost of baking them from scratch).

We can certainly be pedantic and say one molecule of glucose is identical to another, but the logistics of buying cookies on impulse at the supermarket vs taking out a mixer to make them on a saturday morning will realistically not likely yield identical amounts of sugar intake. There's also something to be said about the shock of learning how much butter goes into these things!

Re: Mexican states are moving to ban the sale of junk food to children

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post #218

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Take it for what it is: http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/unsaturated-oils.shtml

This reads like some nutrition grifter satire.

If you don't mind, I'm going to use "nutrition grifter" moving forward.

Re: Mexican states are moving to ban the sale of junk food to children

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post #181

It's interesting how quick people are to blame US corporations when it's the US government that subsidizes cheap carbs through the farm subsidy program (and on the flip-size in the US, subsidize the purchase of junk food via food stamps). Also, banning sales to children doesn't solve the real culprit - parents buying the junk food for their own children. At least in America, watch any parent fill up their carts and p…

How much of that government policy was created in reaction to lobbying by corporations though?

Is it too much to ask for politicians to do the right thing regardless of lobbying?

Re: Mexican states are moving to ban the sale of junk food to children

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post #53

Dumb, just tax fructose in proportion to how much is added. Ths US should do the same thing.

I'm not sure we're solving for much when a bottle of Coke has 100g of cane sugar instead of 100g of high fructose corn syrup.

Is it better? Maybe. Is it still too much sugar? Yes.

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