Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

oculus.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

281–290 of 1001 posts

Re: Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

#281

Post by 52-6F-62 »

eugeniub wrote: post #22

Well this is horrifying. I bought a Quest for a relative. He loves it, but he doesn't have a Facebook account, and has no interest in signing up. I have a Facebook account, but I don't use it, and I certainly don't want to connect my Oculus account. I guess we'll both have to sell our Quests. That means we'll lose all of our game purchases. I came to Oculus with eyes wide open knowing it was a Facebook company, but t…

I've had a Rift for several years now. I haven't had a Facebook account in far longer.

I've also spent a bit of money on Rift games. This is angering.

Re: Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

#282

Post by stjohnswarts »

ilogik wrote: post #82
verbatim wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can make a burner email account that doesn't track you around the web, and other places. Is it possible to do that with a Facebook account?

if you're not logged into it in the browser, it can't follow you around

third party cookies allowed means they can follow you around logged in or out. They can also follow you around by your fingerprint (IP+various browser info bits that uniquely identify you)

Re: Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

#283

Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

soulofmischief wrote: post #272
coldpie wrote: post #265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facebook is a private corporation. The first amendment has no bearing on how Facebook decides to operate their business.

We're talking about an open social platform which half the world's population uses, so it's effectively a public space and the fact that a simple political opinion could be enough to cancel my account means that when hundreds of dollars are on the line, my voice may be effectively silenced. It's a huge problem and even if you don't realize it now, it is going to be a huge political issue in the future.

And it has a simple solution, albeit an unsavory one to many of America's more free-market minded persons: If they are effectively a public space, then nationalize them and make it official.

Re: Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

#284

Post by dhagz »

mlindner wrote: post #216
saos wrote: post #106

Talking of login. I’ve just tried to login to EBay app using Google authentication. I have 2 step verification turned on. It now specifically requires gmail app to access the verification code. It no longer supports Apple mail app. Is this a sick joke? The only way around it was to send the verification code via tex. I'm so concerned now that Google will only send verification codes to Android device in the future.

I recently switched from using Chrome to Firefox. Next on my list is probably to try to wean myself off of using Google search. Getting my email off gmail is going to be harder and not sure what the best way to do that is.

There's lots of alternatives out there, but the good ones aren't free - ProtonMail is one, FastMail is another. There's others as well, but those are the one's I'd recommend. There's also Hey, but I'm still not sold on that one.

Re: Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

#285

Post by shazow »

umvi wrote: post #172
danShumway wrote: post #116

A very brief history of Facebook's involvement with Oculus and how this has shaped up, just from quickly searching HN previous posts: - (2014) Facebook acquires Oculus: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7469115 , https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7469237 - (2016) Oculus's privacy policy sparks concern: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11410809 Oculus responds to privacy concerns about user tracking ( https:…

But did Facebook add any value (i.e. engineering money/hours) to improve the device? What you've listed are all negatives, but there have to be at least a few positives to come out of it.

> But did Facebook add any value (i.e. engineering money/hours) to improve the device? What you've listed are all negatives, but there have to be at least a few positives to come out of it.

Can't help but think of this comic: https://www.newyorker.com/cartoon/a16995

Re: Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

#287

Post by cpeterso »

atarian wrote: post #13

Palmer Luckey, the original creator had this to say over on /r/oculus: I am already getting heat from users and media outlets who say this policy change proves I was lying when I consistently said this wouldn't happen, or at least that it was a guarantee I wasn't in a position to make. I want to make clear that those promises were approved by Facebook in that moment and on an ongoing basis, and I really believed it w…

Hopefully Palmer Luckey has more foresight into how technology can be used in unintended ways now that he is building autonomous defense and surveillance system at Anduril Industries.

Re: Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

#289

Post by q3k »

apta wrote: post #115
atoav wrote: post #81

I recently gave a seminar about how to use Oculus devices in combination with Unity at university. Oculus produces great devices, but man is the software a convoluted nightmare. A (very patient) student of mine tried to install the oculsu software on a current thinkpad for 4 days in a row. It always failed for various reasons. She used a current Windows 10 and her computer definitly has the specs. She even reinstalle…

What are viable alternatives?

SteamVR/OpenVR. It's fantastic.

Re: Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

#290

Post by coldpie »

soulofmischief wrote: post #272
coldpie wrote: post #265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facebook is a private corporation. The first amendment has no bearing on how Facebook decides to operate their business.

We're talking about an open social platform which half the world's population uses, so it's effectively a public space and the fact that a simple political opinion could be enough to cancel my account means that when hundreds of dollars are on the line, my voice may be effectively silenced. It's a huge problem and even if you don't realize it now, it is going to be a huge political issue in the future.

I agree with everything you said, but the fact remains that the US constitution defines what the US government can do, and Facebook is not a part of the US government. The first amendment does not have anything to do with the policies Facebook may choose to create and enforce on their private platform.
Post reply on HN