would any company bother acquiring wechats american operations or are we just letting them disappear?
US to ban transactions with ByteDance and WeChat in 45 days
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#282Earlier quoted context omitted.
That’s the behaviour of a dictatorship country. And now America is being like one. This is probably what China wants for America.
America primarily sells technology. China primarily sells goods. China is totally free to sell goods into America. China has blockaded America's technology, unless the companies agree to essentially hand over IP so China can steal it (Huawei operated a cash bonus scheme for stolen IP, according to the DoJ). Does this sound like "free trade"?
> hand over IP so China can steal it (Huawei operated a cash bonus scheme for stolen IP
Which American company's 5G technology did huawei steal from?
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#283Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thats how world wars break out.
I might get downvoted for this but I think it's a very real possibility. Withdraw the embassy from Beijing, recognize Taiwan and force a embargo of all Taiwanese/Korean and Japanese semiconductor supplies and components to Mainland China. Then sit back and let China then make the first move. Might not work, but at this point I wouldn't put it past somebody in the White House having already gamed it. There has never b…
There is no one in the White House that can do any “gaming”. It’s all gut feel reactionary stuff now.
Re: US to ban transactions with ByteDance and WeChat in 45 days
#284Some people here are wondering about the implications of this. What this means IMO is that all Chinese investments in SV need to be liquidated at fire sale prices in the next 45 days. Regardless of how people here feel about China this is a huge escalation. The US is inflicting huge losses on Chinese companies for no clear violation of US laws on their part. The pandoras box is now open. Do countries get to do this t…
Quite a shallow post that essentially boils down to:
"We should not be this hard with China, let's keep doing what we were doing in the past."
Your post history also looks very interesting, for anyone investigating state-actor social nets.
Re: US to ban transactions with ByteDance and WeChat in 45 days
#285Some people here are wondering about the implications of this. What this means IMO is that all Chinese investments in SV need to be liquidated at fire sale prices in the next 45 days. Regardless of how people here feel about China this is a huge escalation. The US is inflicting huge losses on Chinese companies for no clear violation of US laws on their part. The pandoras box is now open. Do countries get to do this t…
Quite a shallow post that essentially boils down to: "We should not be this hard with China, let's keep doing what we were doing in the past." Your post history also looks very interesting, for anyone investigating state-actor social nets.
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Re: US to ban transactions with ByteDance and WeChat in 45 days
#286Finally some good news
Re: US to ban transactions with ByteDance and WeChat in 45 days
#287Some people here are wondering about the implications of this. What this means IMO is that all Chinese investments in SV need to be liquidated at fire sale prices in the next 45 days. Regardless of how people here feel about China this is a huge escalation. The US is inflicting huge losses on Chinese companies for no clear violation of US laws on their part. The pandoras box is now open. Do countries get to do this t…
China has been doing this for a very long time to US companies. I'm not sure what pandora's box is being opened here. They just didn't selectively to two companies, they do it to all of them (other than Tesla who was the exception to the rule).
Re: US to ban transactions with ByteDance and WeChat in 45 days
#288Some people here are wondering about the implications of this. What this means IMO is that all Chinese investments in SV need to be liquidated at fire sale prices in the next 45 days. Regardless of how people here feel about China this is a huge escalation. The US is inflicting huge losses on Chinese companies for no clear violation of US laws on their part. The pandoras box is now open. Do countries get to do this t…
What are your views on IP theft by some companies there. Should that be considered first strike by China.
How is Instagram's Reels not IP theft?
"Good artists copy; great artists steal" - Steve Jobs
Re: US to ban transactions with ByteDance and WeChat in 45 days
#289Earlier quoted context omitted.
Justifications are meaningless. The US wants to curtail Chinese influence and power, so it finds some mumbo-jumbo to justify it.
This plays right into China's narrative. Now the arrest of Meng Wanzhou (Huawei CTO) starts to look a bit less principled and a bit more like a piece of realpolitik. I think it's definitely justified in the sense that it's understandable to strike back, but it's hard to take a moral high ground now.
But only China believes China's narrative... Just ask any of China's neighbors. Philippines is reversing course of late even though they were trying to get closer to China, for example.
Re: US to ban transactions with ByteDance and WeChat in 45 days
#290Some people here are wondering about the implications of this. What this means IMO is that all Chinese investments in SV need to be liquidated at fire sale prices in the next 45 days. Regardless of how people here feel about China this is a huge escalation. The US is inflicting huge losses on Chinese companies for no clear violation of US laws on their part. The pandoras box is now open. Do countries get to do this t…
Wasn't China already doing stuff like this?