I don't like AMP and I wish we just fixed the problems it is designed to handle at the root cause.
Where Am I? NYTimes or Google?
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#282Earlier quoted context omitted.
By the way, I was referring to a common English aphorism about punctuality on 20th century Italian railways: https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2018/11/03/...
It seems I have to "register" with the Economist to read that.
It's a reference to "Say what you like about Mussolini, he made the trains run on time."
This quip is generally used sarcastically or wryly. "Say what you like about [something that's seriously bad], at least [frivolous matter] has improved."
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> Another way of looking at it is: they absolutely are self-regulating. If they do that, it's not really visible, I don't see any regulation with how Google is behaving regarding search & web, if anything it looks like anti-competitive monopoly behaviours.
Ya'll misunderstood. Self-regulating in the same way an alcoholic meth addict self-regulates.
Most of us understand, it's just that your "word play" is not helpful.
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You might want to work on reducing the length of your sentences- it's very hard to get the meaning behind them.
To me all the difficulty is caused by the obscuration. Once you get to the point where he refuses to say which software he's talking about, your attention scatters to all the different things he might be referring to. If I talk about Oracle's subtle changes to layers of abstraction, you can read the sentence and decide whether that describes Oracle well or not. If I talk about "a widely installed piece of process man…
I think thats part of the point. It makes his statement conversationally non-falsifiable because if I say something about (taking a guess here) systemd, that will say more about my own biases than what I am responding to.
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I am sure tons of people here know Google history better than I. What was the year they fully turned on the advertising spigot? I feel like in the first few years it was not yet an advertising giant. Wikipedia says they had small text ads in 2000, but seems to imply that the advertising didn't get really huge for them until after IPO. Correct me if I am wrong, I was not following super closely in those years. But tha…
Aquisition of Doubleclick, in my book, 2007, though Google ads preexisted that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DoubleClick https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google#Advertising
Ah yes. And I remember when doubleclick arrived on the scene, it was a popular opinion to say they were evil, or sneaky, big brother like. Google bought them and somehow the reputation lifted.
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#286I wonder how many phishing sites are masquerading as google from google
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#287People have been railing against Google's Amp on HN for years, and I think I finally figured out what it's for. It's Google way of combatting phone apps. If all of the world's information — especially current news and similar information — moves from the open web into apps, then Google can no longer crawl, index, or scrape that information for its own use. The rise of the mobile phone app is a threat to Google on so…
Who is really using the dedicated apps for each news site? Web is just way more practical; for translation, for copy-paste, for sharing. Besides,you dont need the app on your mobile.
I bet non-techie people _already_ read their daily dose of news from 1 to 2 news websites at most. Installing a dedicated app is not much different than surfing the same 2 websites everyday.
Also, for techie people, do you consider RSS as part of the "web" ? To me, an RSS aggregator app is superior to browsing 20 different news websites, all with different formats.
"web is just way more practical" isn't obvious. It depends about what you put in the "web" bag, and the use cases. Most apps use "web" protocols, so they are technically part of the web.
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> By undermining the business model of many ad-supported websites, blunt approaches to cookies encourage the use of opaque techniques such as fingerprinting (an invasive workaround to replace cookies), which can actually reduce user privacy and control. https://blog.chromium.org/2020/01/building-more-private-web-... I'm going to copy paste my older comment on this: I find their "removing 3rd party cookies will incent…
Thank you for the additional background.
Thanks for asking, we need more comments like yours
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#289Yes this has been a big issue for a very long time now. Google wants to push a release where it will display the hostname of the amp site even if the content is being served from google.com[1]. Mozilla (and Apple) are strictly against it and thank god for Mozilla. If Google had a bigger market share this would already be something we would have been living with. I'm sure there are better sources for this, but here is…
Being completely against AMP for obvious reasons, I'm personally not against signed exchanges itself, this feature could spawn a whole new class of decentralised and harder to censor web hosting, that sounds like a great addition.
What you describe sounds a lot like URL spoofing, which is already pretty much used entirely to trick and scam unsuspecting users into clicking malicious links. Signed exchanges would just be an even harder to detect version of this.
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I'm out of the loop, care to elaborate which PM software you are referring to?
Edit: it’s too controversial I think to introduce it by name. Googling “RedHat’s replacement for Linux init” would be a good start.
Why would providing an unambiguous pointer to the name be any more controversial than just saying it? The only extra purpose doing it this way serves is being annoying.
(Its systemd, for anyone who doesn't feel like googling it)