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Google Blew a Ten-Year Lead

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Re: Google Blew a Ten-Year Lead

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Post by dorkinspace »

jlarocco wrote: post #273
thoraway1010 wrote: post #25

No kidding. Early adopter of gsuite for domains (work and personal email). The google home devices CANNOT get your calendar from your google calendar. My Alexa device can easily. The thing of stuff just stagnating and no care to scrub the rough corners is crazy. They have some things they keep on improving. I think youtube is there (after the dumped plus thank goodness). Chrome seems to be moving along nicely. I used…

Their focus on monetizing everybody with advertising hurt their products in the long run. It's like they develop products just enough to get people using them so they can squeeze out some more meta-data and connect the dots back to a Google account, and then they stop development because it's not going to add more revenue. And if they can't figure out how to push advertising with it, they drop it.

> Their focus on monetizing everybody with advertising hurt their products in the long run.

Absolutely. Just look at Google Maps these days. Google Maps used to be the only map app I'd use for everything. Now it is so littered with ads once you zoom in that I find it useless for anything other than directions.

This is not a new trend for Google, the advertising company that occasionally builds things.

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Post by txcwpalpha »

MperorM wrote: post #274
txcwpalpha wrote: post #203

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Mine does. I agree wholeheartedly with the parent commenter. My personal G Drive looks similar to yours. It looks like your Drive is mostly used by you, and not many (if any) other collaborators. The problem is that my work G Drive is an utter clusterfuck because of the numerous different ways that documents can be shared between people/teams. There are shared folders, shared drives, individually shared documents, an…

That does sound awful! Thankfully we use Box and regular office at my workplace, so I have not had to experience that side of Drive. Would it be fair to say Drive is very well suited for small organisations, but has trouble scaling?

I think it's great for small teams and small organizations who will likely naturally come to a standardized way of doing things. I think it also can be great for larger organizations as long as that organization has a decent way to encourage (and ideally enforce) a standard way of organizing file shares. It's definitely a challenge once you start losing that structure, though.

Re: Google Blew a Ten-Year Lead

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Post by dleslie »

joshuamorton wrote: post #236
HenryBemis wrote: post #112

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> _open a new market_ for advertising, and to gather data for the same Yes, thank you. "When something is free then you are the product". And for the case of Google, someone pays Google shitloads of money to buy YOUR data. This applies to many companies, but to Google most of all. Also, the further they keep users away from Win10 (where MS siphons everything) and they keep them locked in Android/Chrome operating syst…

Who does Google sell your docs and drive data to?

They needn't sell it at all. The important thing is that you're using a browser more often to do things that were traditionally done with native apps.

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Post by puranjay »

moomin wrote: post #201
monksy wrote: post #52

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Google doesn't have time to fix that. They've got top-level leetcode engineers to make a new chat app.

Let's not forget that had gtalk, which could have dominated easily. Over ten year lead wasted on that one.

At this point I don't even know what's their main chat/video product. Meet? Hangouts? Duo? I have all three on my phone for some reason but still end up using Zoom and Whatsapp

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Post by nostromo »

dmitriid wrote: post #213
mrbonner wrote: post #188

There was some point in the past year I read a comment here about the problem with Google is that when people wants to get promoted at Google to a senior or Staff (PE?) position they need to invent those big changes or projects. It results in adding bloat into existing software or abandon one. I am having that feeling at this point in my career. Without a moonshot project I wouldn’t expect to get pass an assessment c…

> Then, people would just focus on making stuff better And yet, Netflix had autoplaying videos at full volume that didn't even show trailers, but some random snippet from the movie/show

I actually close Netflix because of this.

However, Netflix is full of smart people, so I have to assume that they've tested it and it increases engagement. Perhaps we're the outliers.

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Post by jasonv »

awinder wrote: post #207

“At WWDC, Apple shared Safari stats for macOS Big Sur. It reminded me how much Chrome makes my machine go WHURRRRRR. Yesterday, I made Safari my default browser again.” I talk to developer friends in my circles and I’m pretty sure I’m on a crazy list for running safari, but I really do think it’s the best Mac browser. Chrome is just an absolute hog and until there’s some Camino-like renaissance for Firefox/Mozilla on…

I use Safari for personal surfing, and separate Chrome accounts for my various business/work related surfing.

Keeps things separate and tidy, and I keep Chrome closed as much as I need it to be closed.

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Post by arkades »

listenallyall wrote: post #57

To be clear, this is a stealth ad for Hey email service wrapped in a rant against Google. #1 on HN 20 minutes after posting. It's quite impressive, actually.

If mentioning it in a one-liner is a stealth ad, I assume this was also an ad for Notion, Zoom, Twitch, Apple, Instagram, and TikTok.

Re: Google Blew a Ten-Year Lead

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Post by arkades »

rplnt wrote: post #165
lostlogin wrote: post #72

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There are more Apple products listed. Maybe it’s a push to get beta OS users?

Everyone knows Apple, I have never heard about HEY. The article doesn't really say anything, so I can see how it being at the top would be suspicious.

The article deservedly bashes Google in a way that many here agree with, and praises a number of services that many here at least somewhat agree with.

Validating people's spleen is generally a good way to get to the top of the fp.

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Post by hinkley »

jasonv wrote: post #280
mostlysimilar wrote: post #265

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I do this every few months and it feels amazing each time. Even if I'm intentional about unchecking the marketing email boxes, somehow I still end up on dozens of mailing lists.

I've recently been bothered because I hate all my email clients (except Outlook, weirdly enough, but I don't want to use Outlook with my Gmail accounts, because tag support isn't awesome...) and realized, of course, half my problem is I'm trying to manage too many emails I have no interest in reading. There are a lot of newsletters I like, though.. for things related to fitness and outdooring, that are wholly in the…

I have separate folders for these 'someday' mailing lists. It's like your attic. If you really needed the stuff it would be downstairs, but until you run out of space you can't convince yourself to get rid of any of it.

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Post by rrdharan »

thoraway1010 wrote: post #25

No kidding. Early adopter of gsuite for domains (work and personal email). The google home devices CANNOT get your calendar from your google calendar. My Alexa device can easily. The thing of stuff just stagnating and no care to scrub the rough corners is crazy. They have some things they keep on improving. I think youtube is there (after the dumped plus thank goodness). Chrome seems to be moving along nicely. I used…

In beta, but FYI you can grant calendar access: https://gsuiteupdates.googleblog.com/2019/11/use-google-assi...
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