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536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018)

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Re: 536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018)

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I couldn't help but notice an ambiguity in the phrase

> Summer temperatures drop by 1.5°C to 2.5°C

While I now understand that it means a drop of roughly 2°C plus or minus 0.5°C, my initial reading was that the temperature dropped from 4°C (in the previous Summer) to 2.5°C (in Summer of 536).

Is the meaning of "a drop by A to B" always to be inferred from context?

Re: 536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018)

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post #281

I couldn't help but notice an ambiguity in the phrase > Summer temperatures drop by 1.5°C to 2.5°C While I now understand that it means a drop of roughly 2°C plus or minus 0.5°C, my initial reading was that the temperature dropped from 4°C (in the previous Summer) to 2.5°C (in Summer of 536). Is the meaning of "a drop by A to B" always to be inferred from context?

Proposing the following modification to the English language:

For your interpretation: "drop by X, to Y"

For author's intention: "drop by X-Y"

Re: 536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018)

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Why is Google asking you if TP is in stock at the store? Or I guess through what app is Google sending you these questions? I haven't heard of push notifications or whatever it is asking for feedback on in-store items.

I occasionally get questions in Google maps about the places I'm at (e.g. do they have a wheelchair ramp etc); I could imagine that happening here.

Yep.

The most common questions nowadays seem to be about wheelchair access, wheelchair-accessible parking, and whether the business accepts cards (which is another weird one for Finland - who doesn't accept cards here?).

For restaurants, they may ask whether there is takeout, lunch, vegetarian options, whether the place is romantic, etc.

(And of course you can turn the questions off, but I kinda like answering them.)

Re: 536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018)

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It's also a good reason to leave fossil fuels in the ground and not just extract them as quickly as possible wherever we find them. It seems conceivable that we could eventually find ourselves thermodynamically unable to recover after a catastrophy like a big solar flare. Unfortunately there is no way for anyone to make money by being responsible in this way. We are effectively draining our planetary rainy day fund a…

I am not too certain of the logic of the arguement - namely because fossil fuels are actually pretty damn advanced in terms of "actual technology and societal infastructure to access and exploit them". We already went through this long ago with surface deposits of copper ore as well essentially millenia ago. Effectively the time when it is useful is "when we don't have cheaper alternatives yet". We still should striv…

In case of apocalypsis, debris of our civilization will provide huge supplies of metals. Much cheaper to process than raw ore.

Coal is a different thing. That said, I think that it's not necessary to have very cheap coal and oil energy to have technological advances.

Re: 536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018)

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How many people reading this have a years worth of food? Could any of us survive something similar to this eruption? I think covid really opened alot of peoples eyes to extreme worldwide disasters (volcanos, large earthquakes, pandemics) and how most are not prepared for it at all and yes these things do and will continue to keep happening.

Also consider that you need a community with weapons to defend your "years worth of food" from those who did not have that. You can see that even in peaceful times when nothing really happened, government collapsed and left their citizens to defend themselves from bandits. Imagine a global disaster.

IMO that's the main issue with those hoarders. You can hoard as much as you can, but local gang will expropriate everything.

So may be it's better to stock guns and bullets...

Re: 536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018)

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I don't mean to be too precise, but the article is slightly undermined by the claim in the graphic that the 543 Justinian plague hurried the collapse of the eastern Roman Empire. The 'Eastern' Roman Empire fell in 1453 when the walls of Constantinople were breached by the Ottomans. Very difficult to claim that the Romans fell in the 6th Century. I mean nearly 500 years later Basil is rolling back into Syria on the ba…

Technically you're correct, but IMHO the Eastern Roman Empire fell at the end of the 6th - the beginning of 7th century when the Danube "limes" fell in front of the incoming Slavs and Avars. Yes, there was a renaissance between let's say ~850 and the late 1100s (with the Eastern Roman Empire getting back to the Danube, among other things), but I think that at that point they were actually a Greek empire, nothing Roma…

It's still the same empire.

The Roman Empire was home to many different ethnicities and was ruled at various times by different ethnicities. Latins, Greeks, Armenians, Arabs, etc.

Even the Ottomans considered their empire a continuation of the Roman Empire – one of the Sultan's title's was "Caesar of Rome". So you can add Turks to that list too.

Re: 536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018)

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The worst year to be alive _so far_

Yep. Personally, I think the steady proliferation of nuclear weapons is going to snap at some point with some nut using them. God help us all. Humans are stupid. We think that because we survived the Cold War, that it won't happen. ...but if you read the history - it very nearly did happen a couple of times. ...it's only a matter of time.

Here are counterarguments for counterbalancing your pessimistic view, do what you want with it: humans are not stupid, and god doesn't exist.

Re: 536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not too certain of the logic of the arguement - namely because fossil fuels are actually pretty damn advanced in terms of "actual technology and societal infastructure to access and exploit them". We already went through this long ago with surface deposits of copper ore as well essentially millenia ago. Effectively the time when it is useful is "when we don't have cheaper alternatives yet". We still should striv…

Good luck with those "renewable" solar farms when the next eruption happens.

That’s why a broad basket is preferable to a monoculture of production.

Where I live is a perfect microcosm of this - in the summer, we get ample power from our solar array, but in the winter, when it can be dark and raining for weeks on end, it doesn’t come close - so I’m building out hydro and wind, as when it rains, a stream appears that we can harness, and the wind blows.

The same applies to renewables at grid scale - overdependence on a single source is absolutely risky, which is why most renewable energy efforts involve quite a bit of diversification.

Re: 536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018)

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Is it just me, or does anyone else find it odd that the graphic shows the years increasing downwards, where if you take this to graphically depict the ice core dug out of the ground, going down is decreasing in years (going back in time, earlier)? Things lower in depth were laid down earlier.
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