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Re: Mozilla VPN

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post #141

Come on Mozilla, hurry up! I want to give you money for goods and services (I also donate monthly [1]), but I'm not that interested in a VPN (I can and do also pay Mullvad). Give me that real internet stuff - email, calendar, file sync, chat(?) - give me Firefox Premium. Bundle in the Lockwise password manager. I'd pay good money to see a company fill the void of paid, privacy first essential internet services and I…

Let them stay in the Niche maybe? I'd rather have a really great safe browser than half a dozen half baked products from the same company.

Re: Mozilla VPN

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Yep, migrated from Gmail and very happily so :)

I want to migrate from Gmail but I have my Gmail address tied up to so many things. How do you make the move ?

I did this recently. It's pretty straightforward.

First, do a one-time import from Gmail. Fastmail has an import tool that does this over OAuth. Took me ~45 minutes to import ~50,000 emails.

Next, setup IMAP and SMTP on Fastmail for your Gmail account. This way, you can continue to receive and reply to emails sent to Gmail, using Fastmail as the client. When replying to an email, Fastmail defaults to the right sender (identity) based on whom the email is sent to (abc@fastmail.com or abc@gmail.com).

An alternative is to setup email forwarding in Gmail, so you get a copy of emails sent to your old address.

If you don't have a custom domain, I highly recommend getting one and use that going forward. There might come a day when you want to migrate off Fastmail. With a custom domain, you just need to update the MX records.

Re: Mozilla VPN

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I doubt it, unless you run the VPN. Governments have the same ability to leverage things like trackers, etc. A public VPN service is good for localized privacy. Even a cheap Ubiquity setup will be able to tell about your habits. It's probably good enough to avoid the attention of a civil or informal inquiry (DMCA, employer, etc).

> Governments have the same ability to leverage things like trackers It's not clear to me whether the methods trackers use to de-anonymize you are considered "content" or "metadata", and whether the U.S. government would need a warrant to access tracker information. Do you have thoughts?

You can buy the data on the market without a warrant.

VPNs seems like a really obvious bypass of controls and surveillance capability. I’m sure the folks at NSA, et al thought of it too.

Re: Mozilla VPN

#284

> At Mozilla, we are working hard to build products to help you control of your privacy and stay safe online. > We know that we are on the right path to building a VPN that makes your online experience safer Commercial VPNs are good for censorship circumvention or location spoofing. It is irresponsible to market VPNs as something which “protects” you online. In reality, they do nothing to improve security, and very l…

Agreed -- they provide some tiny specific benefits for security (e.g. against Wi-Fi hacking if accessing a site over HTTP, rare these days) and privacy (no geolocating), but the Mozilla copy says:

> feel empowered, safe, and independent while being online

Huh? This is doing nothing to protect me from any of the common attacks. It's not wiping my cookies. It's not anonymizing my browser fingerprinting. It's not blocking analytics or tracking. It's certainly not protecting my credit card details or password from being hacked from a website's server.

Am I more "empowered"? "Safe"? "Independent"? What is this nonsense marketing fluff?

To market this as being able to control my privacy or stay safe online is just completely disingenuous. Mozilla should be ashamed for trying to imply such strong claims that are just false.

Re: Mozilla VPN

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post #141

Come on Mozilla, hurry up! I want to give you money for goods and services (I also donate monthly [1]), but I'm not that interested in a VPN (I can and do also pay Mullvad). Give me that real internet stuff - email, calendar, file sync, chat(?) - give me Firefox Premium. Bundle in the Lockwise password manager. I'd pay good money to see a company fill the void of paid, privacy first essential internet services and I…

/me wonders which Mozilla marketing person is responsible for planting this comment to justify value. Firefox accounts has a loooong ways to go. There's no webauthn support ( Mozilla's own standard ) and no recovery process. Clear disconnect between value and reality.

Re: Mozilla VPN

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Only Mozilla can make me pay for Google services like Email/Calendar etc. I think I subconsciously trust the brand more than most internet companies out there.

How about FastMail? They have a stellar email service. They also offer contacts and calendars, though I don't personally use those (I use iCloud for that).

Happy Fastmail user here. I love it for the snappy web client. It's only after I switched that I realized how slow Gmail felt.

Re: Mozilla VPN

#287
So long as it will never have anything to do with Firefox. Using it for work would be risky if they did that.

Re: Mozilla VPN

#288
post #204

Every time the VPN service industry is discussed on HN there is a barrage of comments that use keywords like “honeypot”, “snake oil”, and “shady”. I’m not denying that the industry has problems, but in this thread I’d like to focus on how we can improve it. Please tell me - What makes a VPN provider trustworthy, and how do you _know_? Personally I believe a trustworthy provider is _characterized_ by consistent action…

Sorry to go on a tangent (I believe it is word of mouth and actions of the company like you say):

What is the deal with Mullvad and Firefox? Are they completely using your services but with their name on it? Would you rather a client directly or through Firefox (bit cheaper now in $ )?

Re: Mozilla VPN

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post #141

Come on Mozilla, hurry up! I want to give you money for goods and services (I also donate monthly [1]), but I'm not that interested in a VPN (I can and do also pay Mullvad). Give me that real internet stuff - email, calendar, file sync, chat(?) - give me Firefox Premium. Bundle in the Lockwise password manager. I'd pay good money to see a company fill the void of paid, privacy first essential internet services and I…

Paying for a browser in this day and age would really bring Mozilla full-circle back to Netscape in the 90's.

Time for them to reclaim the throne.

Re: Mozilla VPN

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I'm not sure what do you mean by saying "no phone support"? Fastmail has apps for Android and iOS. I use iOS one and it's quite alright. Did I not understand you statement correctly? Like did you mean that you cannot set it up with other mail apps on the phone?

Customer support via phone call.

How often are you calling support? The only time I've needed them was when I was locked out of the admin account, and there was no way to reach a human.
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