If Twitter wants to fact check, fine. But posting links to pieces by anti-Trump news outlets is not fact checking.
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#282Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fact checking is far from a solved problem. The can of worms that Trump opened when he started the "fake news" conversation is still very much open.
Trump didn't start that "conversation". "Fake News" was a term originally intended to reflect the false "news-like" advertisements that were being purchased on social media (primarily Facebook, and primarily targetting conservative users). Trump appropriated it as a way to label unflattering news coverage from mainstream sources.
I'd say Trump appropriated it to point out how untrustworthy the "real" news is. And he was and is right about that in general, even if he's often wrong.
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#283In a lot of European countries nazi speech is forbidden, and I would posit that it works: the police murders less minorities, the difference in earnings and life expectancy are narrower, and generally violent deaths are lower.
Maybe it's time for the US to become a member of the international community, by adopting common codes.
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#284How do you even fact check a powerful cognitive dissonance generator? Because that's what Trump is.
Trying to fact check that kind of person makes no sense. The man himself makes no sense, and he knows. He's a troll and also the US president.
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#285I hope he does. These gigantic centralized silo monopolies that recreate the experience of AOL online. They have way more power than any American (or any other country) company should have in the world. Their reach is global, what they do, impacts millions of people who have no say whatsoever. I long for a much more distributed system. (Doesn't have to be some fancy federated system. I would be happy with real compet…
He's extremely unlikely to take real action because Twitter is his primary channel for reaching his political base. It's not guaranteed they'd migrate to where else he may choose to go (ever helped a relative figure out how to install a Zoom-alike videoconferencing app on their phone? Like that, but multiplied by millions of people. The science of engagement and stickiness tells us about half wouldn't bother to follow if they had to install one more app to hear the President's words).
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#286Hm, is fact checking solved problem? I remember someone here had their game flagged just because it referenced SARS-CoV-2. I hear almost daily horror stories of youtube algo's screwing up content creator. As a human, I still struggle a lot to read a paper and figure out what I just read. On top of that, things like the GPT2 from OpenAI might generate very human like comment. Is there no way to consider social media a…
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> high-ranking communist terrorist
That's quite an accusation; do you have a source for it?
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#287Earlier quoted context omitted.
And this is specifically on a tweet calling the validity of the election into question. It's blatantly wrong, but he needs his base to believe him when he says the election is rigged.
Mail-in ballots make it much easier to commit voter fraud, I don't see how anyone could possibly argue to the contrary. https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/docs/p...
Trump himself votes by mail, as does most of his family. Should we throw out their votes as well?
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#288I feel like we are slowly reaching the state the movie “Idiocracy” describes. I feel very torn about this. On the one hand I don’t think we should leave it up to companies like Twitter to censor things. On the other hand I find it hard to believe that the president is constantly claiming things without any evidence backing up. It started with the claims of millions of illegal voters in 2016 and the commission they st…
> On the one hand I don’t think we should leave it up to companies like Twitter to censor things. Is it really _censorship_ to fact check tweets? I mean, Twitter hasn't _removed_ (i.e. censored) any tweets from Trump, just added an annotation.
“Fact checking” is a nice exercise and somewhat helpful but a lot of people say half baked or stupid things all the time, including myself. Part of a healthy discourse is the ability to say questionable things and having a discussion.
Once you start fact checking where does it end? A lot of people have different views on different things and there is no clear right or wrong.
What I would like to see is that the US political system starts fact checking itself and stop spreading misinformation. This should be done out of self respect.
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#289Earlier quoted context omitted.
What is truth anyway? You say you are a person, I say you are a banana. Who are you to dispute my facts? So strange that the right has decided to cargo-cult the worst bits of post-modernism.
> You say you are a person, I say you are a banana. Who are you to dispute my facts? I'm not quite sure about your intent, but I think this is a more effective phrasing: "You say you are a person, but I say you are a banana. As a banana, who are you to dispute my facts?"
Or maybe "What are you to dispute my facts?"
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#290I feel like we are slowly reaching the state the movie “Idiocracy” describes. I feel very torn about this. On the one hand I don’t think we should leave it up to companies like Twitter to censor things. On the other hand I find it hard to believe that the president is constantly claiming things without any evidence backing up. It started with the claims of millions of illegal voters in 2016 and the commission they st…
> On the one hand I don’t think we should leave it up to companies like Twitter to censor things. Is it really _censorship_ to fact check tweets? I mean, Twitter hasn't _removed_ (i.e. censored) any tweets from Trump, just added an annotation.
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