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YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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It's evidence that the WHO is a political organization, and some of its recommendations, such as being against international travel bans, may be influenced by politics over public health.

>It's evidence that the WHO is a political organization ... Granted. > and some of its recommendations, such as being against international travel bans, may be influenced by politics over public health. This is the part that's not proven.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/08/health/world-health-breas...

> American officials sought to water down the resolution by removing language that called on governments to “protect, promote and support breast-feeding” and another passage that called on policymakers to restrict the promotion of food products that many experts say can have deleterious effects on young children.

> When that failed, they turned to threats, according to diplomats and government officials who took part in the discussions. Ecuador, which had planned to introduce the measure, was the first to find itself in the cross hairs.

> The Americans were blunt: If Ecuador refused to drop the resolution, Washington would unleash punishing trade measures and withdraw crucial military aid. The Ecuadorean government quickly acquiesced.

Importantly, however:

> In the end, the Americans’ efforts were mostly unsuccessful. It was the Russians who ultimately stepped in to introduce the measure — and the Americans did not threaten them.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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4chan was taking the virus seriously back in January, when the WHO was denying the need for travel lockdowns. The misinformation coming out of the WHO is what killed people, not the early warning that 4chan gave us. Edit: note that in both replies to my comment, none of the specific facts I mentioned were responded to. The response of the countries is being blamed, the date I mentioned is being ignored; but I am comp…

This is a hilariously revisionist take people are trotting out. Forget the WHO for a second (which remember was politically cast adrift by the US when they refused to participate in it.) The news coming out of Europe/Iran/China had lay people in the US concerned by late February -- yet the American Government did everything it could to belittle or otherwise diminish the threat. Now it wants to turn around and suggest…

To be fair, the WHO was advocating against travel restrictions, and against calling what was clearly a global pandemic as such.

If they’d switched tune to ‘close your borders’ and ‘this is a global pandemic’ earlier you would have seen some different responses.

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Misinformation is killing people. Given that, who should YouTube use as a source of truth? The US government? Bill Nye the Science Guy? Or should they let 4chan tell your grandma to drink bleach to fight the Rona?

> Misinformation is killing people. How many? I don't think it's very many.

Think of all the protest and conspiracy against Bill gates, 5G, think how many people are still gathering, not wearing any protection, think of how Trump compared it with just another flu, how it would just magically go away. I'd say misinformation indirectly killed thousands of people

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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Current WHO advice: "If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19." [0] Where we live, due to local laws , we are now obliged to wear a mask to go shopping. Can one discuss that on YouTube, or would one be contradicting the WHO? I fear there isn't "one truth" out there, despite the content providers' and fact-checkers' attempts :( We keep trying to encourage our ki…

So Google will just use what they built for China then?

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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This has what to do with their medical and public health recommendations?

Taiwan data was being counted with China's. This means that many of the early safeguards Taiwan was taking to protect their country was overlooked as it's effectiveness didn't show up in the global trends reported by the WHO. In fact, when specifically questioned by the press on how Taiwan was so successful at containment and preventing the spread, the WHO leadership acted like they had never heard the term Taiwan be…

So has Newfoundland's response to the pandemic been extremely effective [0]. Where is Newfoundland's data being published by the WHO site? Here is what I was able to find as far as case statistics: https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situati... No mention of Newfoundland in that document that I can find.

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[0]: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/covid19...

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Prior to March 3rd, the official position of the WHO was that "The flu is worse" I don't expect the WHO to be infalliable, and I don't think this reflects malice or incompetence (they updated as information became available) but that's kind of my point. The WHO is not infalliable. The things they say are not gospel truth. Categorically banning discussion of anything that contradicts what they say is a horrendous meas…

> Prior to March 3rd, the official position of the WHO was that "The flu is worse" This is a lie, and the product of many different organizations flat out making up claims about the WHO to deflect blame away from themselves. The WHO has been telling nations to prepare since January. I mean, I'm an ordinary citizen and I got clued in to preparing in January from their statements.

You must have been watching different news sources than me. The comment you're replying to is what I saw as well.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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"No clear evidence" uncovered in a "preliminary investigation" was a completely true statement. They never ever said "okay, this definitely isn't transmissible, everybody can ignore it". They said in the early stages that it was too soon to be sure. All the other tweets from this period are saying the same thing: something might be coming, so countries should prepare.

I'm moreover pointing out that it isn't clear what YouTube would enforce or not - taken simply, there are a lot of YouTube videos that would have been in conflict with this statement on Twitter. Would they have been taken down?

I will repeat: they said in the early stages that it was too soon to be sure. All the other tweets from this period are saying the same thing: something might be coming, so countries should prepare. So a video saying that people should prepare would not at all be in contradiction.

The kind of misinformation that this measure is aimed at is stuff like saying that it's spread by 5G, or that vitamin C or some random herb cures it, or that drinking bleach or rubbing alcohol will kill it. These are all extremely popular online, and have led to actual deaths.

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The WHO denied human-to-human transmission even after Taiwan told them about it, and they dug their heels on calling the outbreak a pandemic for weeks. I think it depends how youtube draws the line. If they’re removing stuff like “use colloidial silver” or “no need to wash your hands” then sure. But the WHO is not gospel.

The WHO never denied human-to-human transmission. This is a blatant lie.

I remember them clearly doing that publically.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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Things like this are tricky to me. YouTube is a private platform, so they can make their own decisions, but any sort of censorship is scary to me. I honestly don't know where to stand when it comes to issues related to censoring content like this. On one hand, you can limit information we know is false, but restricting spread of information is censoring people, something that is pretty widely regarded as oppressive.…

Their decisions aren't completely free. For example malls got designated as public spaces in the 90s and that could happen online too at some point: https://law.justia.com/cases/colorado/supreme-court/1991/90s...
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