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Google’s reputation as an employer stems in large part from rejecting that belief, and more generally the enterprise bureaucratic culture it lives in. Engineers aren’t clamoring to get into the kinds of companies where IT needs to pre-approve software for their workstations.
Most Google engineers don't have root on their own machines anymore.
Google bans Zoom from employees' computers
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#282Earlier quoted context omitted.
MS Office isn't "banned" from employees' computers at Google. If you need it (and some do) you must request it specifically, because it costs Google a nontrivial amount of money for every user. Same thing with any piece of commercial software: for example, I have Adobe Photoshop on my Google laptop, and I had to request it because it costs Google a few hundred bucks, and most people don't need it at all. Before Googl…
> because it costs Google a nontrivial amount of money for every user. Google is the fourth biggest public company in the world as measured by market cap. A Microsoft 365 "E3" license is $20/user/month. They can afford it. This restriction is entirely about eating your own dogfood.
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I worked at Google 2006-2010, and from where I sat, Google's biggest problems were (1) rapid erosion of corporate culture over that time frame and (2) weak project management. A friend was managing a project on a shoestring budget. Upper management (C-suite) had reviewed the idea and green-lit it. He had been told Larry and Sergei in particular had voiced support. He got it done ahead of schedule and under budget by…
Your timelines are incorrect there. TacoTown is Buzz which was launched in 2010. Wave was launched in 2009.
Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers
#284Earlier quoted context omitted.
> because it costs Google a nontrivial amount of money for every user. Google is the fourth biggest public company in the world as measured by market cap. A Microsoft 365 "E3" license is $20/user/month. They can afford it. This restriction is entirely about eating your own dogfood.
They have 103,000 employees. It adds up.
Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers
#285Earlier quoted context omitted.
MS Office isn't "banned" from employees' computers at Google. If you need it (and some do) you must request it specifically, because it costs Google a nontrivial amount of money for every user. Same thing with any piece of commercial software: for example, I have Adobe Photoshop on my Google laptop, and I had to request it because it costs Google a few hundred bucks, and most people don't need it at all. Before Googl…
> because it costs Google a nontrivial amount of money for every user. Google is the fourth biggest public company in the world as measured by market cap. A Microsoft 365 "E3" license is $20/user/month. They can afford it. This restriction is entirely about eating your own dogfood.
Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers
#286Earlier quoted context omitted.
MS Office isn't "banned" from employees' computers at Google. If you need it (and some do) you must request it specifically, because it costs Google a nontrivial amount of money for every user. Same thing with any piece of commercial software: for example, I have Adobe Photoshop on my Google laptop, and I had to request it because it costs Google a few hundred bucks, and most people don't need it at all. Before Googl…
> because it costs Google a nontrivial amount of money for every user. Google is the fourth biggest public company in the world as measured by market cap. A Microsoft 365 "E3" license is $20/user/month. They can afford it. This restriction is entirely about eating your own dogfood.
Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers
#287Earlier quoted context omitted.
MS Office isn't "banned" from employees' computers at Google. If you need it (and some do) you must request it specifically, because it costs Google a nontrivial amount of money for every user. Same thing with any piece of commercial software: for example, I have Adobe Photoshop on my Google laptop, and I had to request it because it costs Google a few hundred bucks, and most people don't need it at all. Before Googl…
> because it costs Google a nontrivial amount of money for every user. Google is the fourth biggest public company in the world as measured by market cap. A Microsoft 365 "E3" license is $20/user/month. They can afford it. This restriction is entirely about eating your own dogfood.
Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers
#288A more existential question is why the Google and MSFT with 'All the King's Horses and All the King's Men' can't make a basic, reliable, video conf . I understand there are some business reasons here and there (MS wants people on Teams not Skype) but it doesn't matter. 'Basic Video' should be as common, robust and reliable as making a phone call.
Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers
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Jitsi is the worst in my experience, particularly with many people (ie more than two or three).
My experience: On one computer it froze Firefox. On another computer it crashed Firefox. On my phone (Jitsi Meet via F-Droid): I once had a big meeting where it seemed like only call-in users could hear me, another time during a rather large meeting the application crashed, and recently I had a successful conference with 4 people. The phone application had a few updates between the failures and the success, so perhap…
Considering your alternatives with zoom clients being banned it's not that far of a stretch.
Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers
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Jitsi is the worst in my experience, particularly with many people (ie more than two or three).
I was planning to try it out. Can you explain what hasn't worked well for you?
If you are using firefox you will encounter issues