Microsoft is also not cool to be honest their product skype still don't work on firefox. Both are bad players to me . Slowing down youtube and google product on firefox, not allowing skype on firefox are cheap strategy used by both company.
Google Chrome's fear of Microsoft Edge is revealing its bad side
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Re: Google Chrome's fear of Microsoft Edge is revealing its bad side
#282This is just like when Google Maps was blocked on Windows Phone[1] and when they decided to block YouTube as well[2]. Microsoft now finds themselves in the same position their competitors found themselves in the IE6 era. Google is behaving, if anything, worse, and using its massive reach and user base to stifle competition. This is deeply disappointing, and all the more reason Microsoft never should have adopted Chro…
As a web developer, I just can't buy into firefox. The chrome/chromium dev tools are far superior. I also tried using chrome as a "work" browser and firefox for the rest, but it's all a big mess. Not to mention that a lot of pages are not working well. I am now using Brave to at least mitigate the privacy nightmare of Chrome.
lot of pages not working already indicates why google is taking advantage right? First make stuff that don't work on firefox and later people complain its firefox issue. Yea brave is good choice for developers :)
Re: Google Chrome's fear of Microsoft Edge is revealing its bad side
#283This is just like when Google Maps was blocked on Windows Phone[1] and when they decided to block YouTube as well[2]. Microsoft now finds themselves in the same position their competitors found themselves in the IE6 era. Google is behaving, if anything, worse, and using its massive reach and user base to stifle competition. This is deeply disappointing, and all the more reason Microsoft never should have adopted Chro…
>They will eventually have to maintain a hard fork, the differences will grow such that they eventually have to increase their engineering spend on it to keep pace with just managing the rebases and patches or reimplement features themselves, This sounds dramatic but Microsoft is a company with 150000 employees. Maintaining a fork of Chromium while open source development continues is probably not an insurmountable f…
If it is that easy and obvious why did they stop working on their own engine then?
Re: Google Chrome's fear of Microsoft Edge is revealing its bad side
#284Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do they even know that Edge is Chrome based?
Good question. Probably all they know is that Microsoft released a competing browser and just asked the engineering team to do them a tool for showing annoying messages to the users based on the browser. I am sure marketing doesn't know/care if it was done with Chromium, 1994 Mosaic or matchsticks.
This reeks of smug engineering superiority.
I promise you the marketing team does serious competitive intel and probably knows more about the competitive landscape than the engineers themselves. That's true at my place of employment (also a bay area tech company), and I'd be shocked if it's not true at Google.
Re: Google Chrome's fear of Microsoft Edge is revealing its bad side
#285Earlier quoted context omitted.
I had been a hardcore Chrome user since the comic book days and switched back to Firefox last year. Imported my passwords and bookmarks and the transition couldn't have been smoother. I still have Chrome installed but haven't opened it more than a handful of times since. What about your experience hasn't been great?
I can't speak to the experiences of chapium, but my issue with Firefox is that I always experience a slowdown of some sort after it's been open and in use for a few hours. I have to go into about:profiles and "restart normally" to make it go away for another few hours. I never had this problem with Chrome. I'm on my third or fourth attempt to switch to Firefox in the last year and it's still happening. I'm tempted to…
I always seem to run into performance hitches or glitchy behavior. Both Chrome and Firefox use very aggressive prefetching, but I find that the UI response time feels better in Chrome. Edge (the chromie version) is my go to for stay out of my way browsing.
Re: Google Chrome's fear of Microsoft Edge is revealing its bad side
#286This is just like when Google Maps was blocked on Windows Phone[1] and when they decided to block YouTube as well[2]. Microsoft now finds themselves in the same position their competitors found themselves in the IE6 era. Google is behaving, if anything, worse, and using its massive reach and user base to stifle competition. This is deeply disappointing, and all the more reason Microsoft never should have adopted Chro…
the thing is that having a different rendering engine is no longer an advantage. on the contrary, it gets in the way.
as a web developer i'd prefer that there only be one browser i need to support, that is, one rendering engine, that guarantees that my site works everywhere.
as a user i want new features to work and be taken up quickly. i don't want to be told that a website doesn't work in my browser, or worse, have it fail silently.
different browser are fine for the UI, tab handling, bookmarks, extensions, etc. but rendering a website should work uniformly without fail.
the reason why we need multiple rendering engines is because monoculture is bad for security and it's also not a good idea to allow a single company to define how the web works.
however, most users or developers don't care to much about that.
if that rendering engine would be developed and maintained by an independent consortium like mozilla, then this would actually be sort of acceptable, as it would at least solve the monopoly problem (if a resource is best managed as a monopoly, then that monopoly must be owned by the community at large, and not by a company with selfish commercial interests.)
it wouldn't solve the security problem however.
Re: Google Chrome's fear of Microsoft Edge is revealing its bad side
#287Someone call the Justice Department
Re: Google Chrome's fear of Microsoft Edge is revealing its bad side
#288Earlier quoted context omitted.
>They will eventually have to maintain a hard fork, the differences will grow such that they eventually have to increase their engineering spend on it to keep pace with just managing the rebases and patches or reimplement features themselves, This sounds dramatic but Microsoft is a company with 150000 employees. Maintaining a fork of Chromium while open source development continues is probably not an insurmountable f…
If it is that easy and obvious why did they stop working on their own engine then?
probably because nobody was using their browser any more? (other than people who can't delete it from their work computers I guess)
In terms of market share Chromium has essentially won. It's where all the addons are, it's what websites are being optimised for, and so on.
Re: Google Chrome's fear of Microsoft Edge is revealing its bad side
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Pretty interesting article. > "Google Chrome ads started appearing next to Firefox search terms. Gmail & [Google] Docs started to experience selective performance issues and bugs on Firefox. Demo sites would falsely block Firefox as 'incompatible'," he said. > "All of this is stuff you're allowed to do to compete, of course. But we were still a search partner, so we'd say 'hey what gives?' And every time, they'd say,…
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