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I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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Post by glenneroo »

karatestomp wrote: post #234
inopinatus wrote: post #226

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Stories set in the Culture in which Things Went Wrong tended to start with humans losing or forgetting or deliberately leaving behind their terminal. It was a conventional opening, the equivalent of straying off the path in the wild woods in one age, or a car breaking down at night on a lonely road in another.” —— Iain M. Banks, The Player of Games .

Reminds me of how modern horror movies mostly have to one of 1) be set before cell phones, 2) dispose of cell phones somehow, or 3) be in some way about cell phones.

Tangentially related, reminds me of how most scifi books and movies add all sorts of insane tech, yet leave out competent AI (in e.g. battle scenes, piloting vehicles, etc.) which would utterly obliterate anything human controlled.

Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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Post by dependenttypes »

kortilla wrote: post #145
marksomnian wrote: post #142

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Not an uncommon practice, Jeff Atwood calls it "hellbanning": https://blog.codinghorror.com/suspension-ban-or-hellban/

No, he calls it slowbanning. Hellbanning is when you let them keep posting but other people can’t see the posts. Hackernews hellbans as well and you can see the comments from the deplorables if you turn on “showdead” in your profile.

> deplorables

Isn't this a pretty mean thing to say? Just making an account from tor is enough to get you shadowbanned in hn.

Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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Post by manicdee »

squizzeak wrote: post #222
marksomnian wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not an uncommon practice, Jeff Atwood calls it "hellbanning": https://blog.codinghorror.com/suspension-ban-or-hellban/

I always referred to this practice as “tarpitting”, I was surprised to see nobody else here does!

“Tarpitting” is a specific type of network-layer defence which is not related to degradation of service. A tarpit will typically stretch out response time to network-layer and some application-layer communications in order to waste wallclock time of spammers.

Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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Post by aabbcc1241 »

kempbellt wrote: post #262
Tenoke wrote: post #253

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Not using Chrome?

> Not using Chrome? A truly deplorable act... I also added about 30 seconds of latency to every page I visit, but for completely different reasons as op. Switching to Brave and blocking all cookies and JS by default made me have to manually enable it for nearly every site that I actually wanted to use. About a week later, Chrome was reinstalled. Maybe I'll try it again once I level up my willpower.

I'm using nextdns.io and no-script with firefox, it works quite smooth when you accumulate the settings. You can export/import the no-script settings and merge with meld to keep the setting in sync between your PCs and laptops

Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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Post by cbd7f73 »

anw wrote: post #266
Antwan wrote: post #140

I ran a website for youngsters several years ago. One of the duties to maintain it was to moderate discussion boards. Some kids were difficult to manage and would not accept to be banned (via email/IP/or whatever solution) and would keep recreating profiles. Ultimately I dealt with those ppl by “greylisting” them. Added a sleep() prior each page rendering of 5 to 25 secs (actually it was more sophisticated and would…

This reminds me of the old VBulletin plugin "Miserable Users"[0]. We also had a community suffering from this problem (during the early 2000's). Bans would take care of a lot of problem users, but would just give energy to those truly out for blood, troll, bored, or very immature. We had one user get banned over a dozen times while we tried banning IPs, name regex or anything else we could think of. Finally, like you…

This sounds pretty terrible when you think about how arbitrarily websites can determine you're a "bad user", but then again I like the idea of doing this programmatically for sites I myself want to stop using.

Either that or a plugin to encourage productivity.

Don't block social media sites, just turn them all into slow ineffective shitty websites.

Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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Post by [deleted] »

youerbt wrote: post #214
jedberg wrote: post #210

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We did the same thing at reddit. If someone was abusing the site we would redirect them at the load balancer to a single server with an extra sleep in it.

Then you did the same for your mobile users, degrading their experience until they use an app or leave.

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Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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Post by aabbcc1241 »

aabbcc1241 wrote: post #284
kempbellt wrote: post #262

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Not using Chrome? A truly deplorable act... I also added about 30 seconds of latency to every page I visit, but for completely different reasons as op. Switching to Brave and blocking all cookies and JS by default made me have to manually enable it for nearly every site that I actually wanted to use. About a week later, Chrome was reinstalled. Maybe I'll try it again once I level up my willpower.

I'm using nextdns.io and no-script with firefox, it works quite smooth when you accumulate the settings. You can export/import the no-script settings and merge with meld to keep the setting in sync between your PCs and laptops

Also "Privacy Badger" which smartly block scripts by checking cross site cookie, preset whitelist and custom whitelist/blocklist

Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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Post by dang »

dependenttypes wrote: post #282
kortilla wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, he calls it slowbanning. Hellbanning is when you let them keep posting but other people can’t see the posts. Hackernews hellbans as well and you can see the comments from the deplorables if you turn on “showdead” in your profile.

> deplorables Isn't this a pretty mean thing to say? Just making an account from tor is enough to get you shadowbanned in hn.

That's not true. Software filters sometimes kill such comments, but the accounts themselves are unaffected, and moderators review the killed comments and unkill the clearly good ones, and mark such accounts legit to immunize their future posts from those filters. Also, users often vouch for comments that have been killed in this way, which restores them.

Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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Post by bacon_waffle »

city41 wrote: post #169

I dropped my phone a while back and the screen now has issues. It gets "streaks" all across the entire screen. It's harder to see content, but you can get by. My first inclination was to get it fixed, but I've now had it this way for several months. I find I use my phone a lot less and now sort of consider the streaks a "feature". I've investigated going to a true dumb phone, but that's not nearly as feasible now as…

Overall, the not-smartphone thing is great! I wasn't particularly hooked on my (basic) smartphone, but definitely feel a bit more present without it. The urge to look at the rectangle in my pocket after being idle for 5 seconds is gone.

I switched to a Nokia 8110 a couple months ago, and really want to like it, but the basics are too poorly done. On the 8110 in particular, the keys are quite small, and their debouncing is terrible. I worry the debounce might be the same for other phones in that family, which all seem to have the same guts. A single keypress is very often interpreted as a double-press, which makes T9 frustrating and the predictive mode practically impossible.

There's no way to switch the ringer off, without opening the cover and navigating two layers of menu. The music player is borderline useless, a shame considering it has a microSD slot.

At least on my network (Vodafone NZ), MMS messages don't work in either direction - basically you have to ring someone back when they try to send you one.

The idea of having maps is nice. But, in practice, I've just reverted to noting directions in a notebook that I carry anyway. So, while maps was one of the main reasons I tried a Nokia KaiOS phone, it's not a requirement for the next one.

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