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Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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Perhaps this simple illustration of a scale will help? BAD ---X-----Y----Z----- GOOD Given the standard definitions of "better" and "worse", Y needs to regress substantially to put it behind X.

Most users would put "randomly loosing files" pretty far left.

Yes, but it depends on the frequency of the issue. If it’s very rare/isolated it can be tolerated. Since release I've only seen it in the iTunes/Music app so far.

And Windows updates have had that problem as well, so the whole scale just shifts.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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Their products - including hardware - is for the young. I don’t think that’s it. Once upon a time a Rolex was a serious tool for professional pilots and divers but now it’s a status symbol. It still basically tells the time but no one buys it for that. Once upon a time a Mac...

I think there is something to this idea that Apple's products are for the young. Older folks like me learned to use computers as toolboxes of specialized tools that we could use in combination to create customized solutions to whatever we had to do. But Apple would rather sell you solutions (higher value-added) than sell you tools to make your own. By "courageously" taking things away from users, they frustrate older…

Yes I see what you mean, but that is a bigger trend than just Apple e.g. Google keeps trying to hide URLs in Chrome so you can only get around the web by clicking links and running Google searches. But Apple is definitely trying to hide the concepts of files, filesystems etc from users, that is something I find particularly annoying

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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I have been using Macs to manage my digital life (personal photos, files, videos, music, notes, documents etc) since Tiger/Leopard days and have been mostly happy with the experience. But I feel now more than ever before that my decade and half old collection is on shaky ground and at risk of being lost with any given OS upgrade. Lost because of file system or crypto or some such software deprecation/compatibility bu…

I was really shocked when I tried to upgrade from High Sierra to Mojave about a month ago and found that my work directory was completely gone. It turned out that I rigged the work directory to Dropbox via a hard link, which is emulated in HFS+ as a shadow directory plus a placeholder, and the conversion to APFS broke this emulation. Fortunately for me I had a shortcut to that shadow directory in the Finder and was able to recover it, this time using a plain symlink (less than ideal, sigh), but I now have a big question about Apple concerning about existing users. At least I trust Dropbox more than Apple though...

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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> I don't like change when it unnecessarily breaks things that used to work just fine. This is by definition what change is. It's an improvement, and if changes didn't break things there'd never be progress and nothing would get changed.

Change is absolutely not, "by definition", an improvement. It can be. And it can be entirely the opposite.

What I meant is that an improvement is always a change. It may not have worked for a specific person but it was intended to address an issue for others.

Backwards compatibility does not come for free. At some point people refusing to use new features have to be cut off.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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Seems to me 2013 was the real sweet-spot for MBP. I still use mine almost every single day. It's a beast, and has been very reliable. Keyboard is WAY nicer to type on than the current generation. It's a little thicker and heavier, and lacks USB-c ports, but it's still damn fine.

Yup. Still on my pimped-out 2013 MBP. Still has plenty of horses, and the only things that have failed were a fan ((cats & cigarettes) simple replacement), and the power lead wore through. Super reliable machine, still relevant performance-wise. I plan on using it until it disintegrates. Edit: I wonder if apple regret making these machines. They seem like a failure of planned obsolescence - at least, until new releas…

> I wonder if apple regret making these machines.

If your old products are still running fine that's only good publicity and generates word-of-mouth credibility.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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My win10 pc at work is living hell, but I’m 95% sure this is all the corporate spyware and anti malware shit my employer throws on top. Windows 10 vanilla is probably pretty nice. [edited to clarify the source of the problem]

It’s possible that your IT Department are idiots of course, but it’s also possible your management insist on downloading random crap from the internet, plugging in random USB drives and so, and powerless to just ban that activity, the IT dept are doing the best they can...

It’s possible that your IT Department are idiots

I wouldn't use exactly those words, more like 'not really capable', but yeah, definitely possible. Due to circumstances I can run my own machines out of IT's hands. This is a pretty large university, yet: my Linux, Windows 7 and 10 machines are what I'd call rock solid even despite aged hardware. Better spec'd machines running the same OS managed by IT seem to be riddled with random bugs and in case of Windows also slower.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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My win10 pc at work is living hell, but I’m 95% sure this is all the corporate spyware and anti malware shit my employer throws on top. Windows 10 vanilla is probably pretty nice. [edited to clarify the source of the problem]

It’s possible that your IT Department are idiots of course, but it’s also possible your management insist on downloading random crap from the internet, plugging in random USB drives and so, and powerless to just ban that activity, the IT dept are doing the best they can...

I’m sure what’s left of our IT dept has the usual distribution of folks. But we have 100,000+ employees, and basically 1 policy for everyone.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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post #5

"why mess with Mail’s classic layout? It’s been my preferred layout since Mac OS X 10.0, and that type of layout has basically been the one I have used since I started using email more than twenty years ago" This seems to be the heart of the post. I see the value in stable, unchanging things, but I also have to believe the designers at Apple are trying to make things better, and I think that is honorable.

I would have to think you did not read the entire article if you think that is the heart of the post.

That's the smallest thing in it.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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This is far and away the most disruptive major update to macOS in recent memory. My experience of the past few major versions have been almost entirely seamless.

I see! Maybe because I wasn’t running any 32-bit applications, it was rather seamless for me.

I haven’t had a bad experience with Catalina, but the new app sandboxing has broken a few minor tools like BalenaEtcher. Not a big deal as it still runs fine under sudo... and they’ll surely release a new version shortly.
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