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Re: Facebook Dating

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Does this service exist only as an app at this time? I have long ago decided that Facebook is not trustworthy enough for it to be allowed to have an app installed on my smartphone. Which I guess should remind me that it is not trustworthy enough to run a dating service that I should take part in.

Re: Facebook Dating

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Dating platforms are incentivized to keep the client (whether they are a paying customer, or an individual giving them passive income through advertising) from leaving the platform. What do you think is in Facebook’s interest? You leaving the platform to live a satisfying love life?

I hate to say it, but this is actually an advantage of FB here. Once you're no longer dating, you'll still use their platform, just like you did before. They have no incentive to keep you in the dating pool.

This has been my thought on why FB will probably do fantastic in this space.

Re: Facebook Dating

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I think HN should in particular not feel informed enough to comment on strategic benefit of product decisions like these, because the general HN opinion of FB which is at such odds at FB's place in society is enough to conclude that HN doesn't really understand FB.

HN is a SV or SV-adjacent bubble that takes pride in not having social media profiles and doesn't hesitate in boasting about it in every frigging thread, multiple times a day. In contrast, (b)millions around the world find value in social media every single day and use it for all kinds of applications.

I am confident FB understands this much better than people like us here who can't think of any good use cases of social media without presenting 10 riders to assure the crowd that we hate FB.

Re: Facebook Dating

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a common mistake. Ads don't always (and you could argue rarely) show their target demographic. Easy example: ever seen an overweight person in a fast food commercial?

The era of 'supersize me' fast food marketing is long gone. Most fast food restaurants are not targeting that specific of a market anymore, they're aiming at a much large cross-section of the population. A better example would be an all-you-can-eat buffet.

According to the CDC, over 70% of American adults are overweight or obese, so by targeting a "large cross-section" of the population restaurants are in fact aiming at 'large' customers. This reality isn't represented in advertising for obvious reasons.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/obesity-overweight.htm

Re: Facebook Dating

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it's that there are very different faces of ourselves that we show to the professional world, to our friends, to partners, and to the world at large I think Facebook's goal is to make it so that you have one persona you show to everyone. To me, that seems like a cultural thing unique to Silicon Valley that the rest of the world does not necessarily want. It seems like a mistake. If you have one persona, that means…

I think that has to do with long hours and expectation that you are so passionate, that you spend off time in workplace related social functions. There is no relevant "out of work" for many people.

And that is exactly the world I do not want to live in.

Re: Facebook Dating

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it's that there are very different faces of ourselves that we show to the professional world, to our friends, to partners, and to the world at large I think Facebook's goal is to make it so that you have one persona you show to everyone. To me, that seems like a cultural thing unique to Silicon Valley that the rest of the world does not necessarily want. It seems like a mistake. If you have one persona, that means…

The whole Maven / Damore stuff at Google shows the strengths and weaknesses of this “one persona” approach. People in Silicon Valley bring their entire selves to work, they protest their own company when they feel it is not having properly, there’s something to admire about that but most people elsewhere are happy to keep work at work and not get too worked up about what their company is or isn’t doing.

> People in Silicon Valley

This has got to be an over generalisation, surely?

People in Silicon Valley are highly unlikely to be a homogenous whole.

And given what we know about Gell-Mann Amnesia, it seems likely to me the media’s portrayal of the situation is, at best, amiss, and, at worst, intentionally deceptive.

Probably that a vocal minority generate a kerfuffle, and a huge majority keep mum.

Happy to be proven wrong.

Re: Facebook Dating

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I think this might be a (relatively) rare strategy error for Facebook. If the success of Snapchat, LinkedIn, and also the separate WhatsApp/Instagram properties proves anything, it's that there are very different faces of ourselves that we show to the professional world, to our friends, to partners, and to the world at large. If I was facebook, I would very explicitly announce this as a spin out project, under a diff…

> it's that there are very different faces of ourselves that we show to the professional world, to our friends, to partners, and to the world at large I think Facebook's goal is to make it so that you have one persona you show to everyone. To me, that seems like a cultural thing unique to Silicon Valley that the rest of the world does not necessarily want. It seems like a mistake. If you have one persona, that means…

> I think Facebook's goal is to make it so that you have one persona you show to everyone. To me, that seems like a cultural thing unique to Silicon Valley that the rest of the world does not necessarily want.

Indeed. I live in a muslim country and here everyone uses dual-sim phones with 2 sims for the sole purpose of having 2 accounts at everything: one for the conservative part of the family, another for the modern.

Re: Facebook Dating

#290

Date your friends! :D On a more serious note though, why not? If their mission is to help connect people and this helps connect people that otherwise had trouble dating and this does so in a meaningful way then sounds good to me. Privacy is always a concern no matter what the app/site/technology.

The article says this: Facebook Dating won’t match you with friends , unless you choose to use Secret Crush and you both add each other to your list. All of your Dating activity will stay in Facebook Dating. It won’t be shared to the rest of Facebook.

> unless you choose to use Secret Crush

Add all your friends to Secret Crush. Watch who matched you.

"Sorry buddy, I wasn't really using the thing, I just added everyone, but thanks for letting me know you like me!"

Idiots. And this is why the shared identity is a terrible idea for dating sites. You want dating profiles to be throwaway, and you want it to be hard for your friends to find your dating persona for this reason!

But of course Facebook doesn't understand the need to keep secrets from (some of) your friends.

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