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MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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Post by IloveHN84 »

Hey, HN can we stop with all those articles on how bad the MacBook keyboard is or why do you leave Medium for X (insert X as your new platform).

There are now 100 versions of this story and we know already how bad the product it is.

I believe that if you're going to buy a new MacBook Pro, then you are going to meet the same problem again and again. Sometimes Apple users are masochists in this way: keeping buying products from the same OEM like a religion.

Change manufacturer and see if it goes better.

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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Post by jacquesc »

IloveHN84 wrote: post #281

Hey, HN can we stop with all those articles on how bad the MacBook keyboard is or why do you leave Medium for X (insert X as your new platform). There are now 100 versions of this story and we know already how bad the product it is. I believe that if you're going to buy a new MacBook Pro, then you are going to meet the same problem again and again. Sometimes Apple users are masochists in this way: keeping buying prod…

I'll upvote every one of these stories. I have a macbook pro and use external keyboard 95% of the time. But the built in one (and touchbar) is awful. Maybe someone at Apple will read hacker news someday and realize it.

Or not and I'll just keep using this piece of crap. C'est la vie

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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Post by seph-reed »

__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #256
iamleppert wrote: post #12

I switched to a Thinkpad after I had the horror of using a new Macbook. Running Ubuntu is lovely, so much so that for a developer there is little reason to be using a Macbook anymore. You can get a lot more bang for the buck using a Thinkpad AND have a functional keyboard. Apple should be very worried. Once they loose the developers, users won't be long to follow.

There are four of us at work that use Linux--the other 30 or so all have MacBooks. There are no converts, either you started a Linux person, or you started a Mac person. My little Linux enclave has some theories about the cognitive effect of all the polish that you find on Apple products, but we can't separate our biasses from good science, especially because there's nobody to ask that knows both worlds. So I have a…

Yes, absolutely. My sense of beauty goes from focusing on grace to focusing of freedom/story. Both are pretty in their own way, but by choosing to appreciate what they do best I become more aware of one type of beauty over another in all aspects near me.

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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Post by gnicholas »

snockerton wrote: post #6

I'm glad that others are voicing the same issues I'm experiencing. Sometimes I wonder if I'm taking crazy pills. My solution has been to place an Apple bluetooth keyboard -on top- of my 15" MBP keyboard and that seems to work pretty well, but wow, it shouldn't have come to this...

Can't believe I haven't thought of this! I've been using an Apple BT keyboard with my MBP but never thought to stack it right on top of the butterfly keyboard. I can confirm that it fits the 13" MPB, just like your 15"!

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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Post by artsyca »

jacquesc wrote: post #283
IloveHN84 wrote: post #281

Hey, HN can we stop with all those articles on how bad the MacBook keyboard is or why do you leave Medium for X (insert X as your new platform). There are now 100 versions of this story and we know already how bad the product it is. I believe that if you're going to buy a new MacBook Pro, then you are going to meet the same problem again and again. Sometimes Apple users are masochists in this way: keeping buying prod…

I'll upvote every one of these stories. I have a macbook pro and use external keyboard 95% of the time. But the built in one (and touchbar) is awful. Maybe someone at Apple will read hacker news someday and realize it. Or not and I'll just keep using this piece of crap. C'est la vie

-- it's amazing how these little details matter because they're right there affecting your quality of life every minute of every day and everyone is telling you to grin and bear it

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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Post by eknkc »

gilesgate wrote: post #278
__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are four of us at work that use Linux--the other 30 or so all have MacBooks. There are no converts, either you started a Linux person, or you started a Mac person. My little Linux enclave has some theories about the cognitive effect of all the polish that you find on Apple products, but we can't separate our biasses from good science, especially because there's nobody to ask that knows both worlds. So I have a…

The primary difference is whether you think it's alright to spend £35 on a single simple cable or not. Many things that follow simply hinge on that.

Its never this simple.

I switched from 2016 macbook pro to dell xps 13 running linux. I spent 2 weeks tinkering. Trackpad never worked half as good as MBP. The simple act of closing the display lid did not even put the computer to sleep reliably.

I went back and paid the Apple tax.

Edit: BTW, Windows was running OK on that machine. Linux was fucked. I guess Microsoft is doing great work on WSL2. It might be the solution for me eventually.

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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Post by anthony_doan »

gilbetron wrote: post #149
iamleppert wrote: post #12

I switched to a Thinkpad after I had the horror of using a new Macbook. Running Ubuntu is lovely, so much so that for a developer there is little reason to be using a Macbook anymore. You can get a lot more bang for the buck using a Thinkpad AND have a functional keyboard. Apple should be very worried. Once they loose the developers, users won't be long to follow.

Mac to Dell/Ubuntu here and completely agree. I can understand if you need some media creation applications sticking with Mac (although I'd switch to Win10), but as a fellow developer it has been awesome. I mean I'm completely shocked how I don't even remotely miss anything from Mac. Well, ok, not quite true - Macs have a slightly smoother UI which I like and a bit better fonts, and I miss 1 or 2 trackpad gestures. B…

> I can understand if you need some media creation applications sticking with Mac (although I'd switch to Win10), but as a fellow developer it has been awesome

I believe you also need it for ios/iphone development not sure about osx dev though.

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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Post by gnicholas »

QuercusMax wrote: post #91

My hands hurt when typing on this keyboard. I've never had this problem with a Mac laptop in the better part of two decades.

I also have persistent joint pain in my fingers when I use my 2017 MBP keyboard even a moderate amount. I switched to an Apple BT keyboard and about a month later the pain subsided.

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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Post by vgetr »

asdff wrote: post #72
piinbinary wrote: post #43

I wonder how much time Jony Ive personally spends typing. I'm betting it is a very small amount.

The man probably doesn't even own a macbook other than to look at it sitting pretty on a shelf. Steve would have thrown a mbp out of a window if it doubled a key on him. Wouldn't be surprised if Ive is an ipad + pencil only loonie. Certainly would explain a lot.

I sometimes wonder if bringing Scott Forestall back in would fix things, even temporarily. He wasn’t necessarily pleasant but then again, neither was Steve.
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