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NULL license plate not such a bright idea

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Re: NULL license plate not such a bright idea

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I bricked my profile page on Zomato, There is(was) a feature where you can choose a custom URL for your profile page, I chose something which already was a valid URL for them. Now when i click on "my profile", it goes to "https://www.zomato.com/genjs" . I can't edit anything in my profile now.

Re: NULL license plate not such a bright idea

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I read years ago in comp.risks about a similar story. A guy in 1979(!) requested a personalized plate "SAILING", with second choice "BOATING". He didn't want a customized plate if he couldn't get those, so for his third choice he put down "NO PLATE". Of course, he ended up with "NO PLATE". He ended up getting 2500 parking tickets, since cars with no plate had "NO PLATE" written on the ticket. References: http://www.m…

I remember a different story where the guy had to fight every ticket in court

On the plus side, he could also contest legitimate tickets unless they recorded other information.

Re: NULL license plate not such a bright idea

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Most states do not allow special characters in the plate text.

Depends on how you define "special." I've seen hearts on California tags, and I think some glyphs on Virginia tags, but I might not be remembering that correctly.

That's just part of the design. They are ignored when you type it in, etc. and you can't have ABC123 and ABC123 simultaneously existing because they're the same to the DMV.

Re: NULL license plate not such a bright idea

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post #184

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>Avoid backticks in passwords. Is there even a reason to include special characters in passwords? They add 10% more security[1] but cause all sorts of issues with systems. Just use an alphanumeric password that's 10% longer, and if special characters are mandatory, use a safe character at the end like _ or -. [1] 6.55 bits per character (all printable ascii characters) rather than 5.95 (only alphanumeric)

bits usually add exponential complexity, so that '10% more' security might mean a password that's a million times harder to brute force..

10% more refers to the character length for the same amount of security, so that's already baked in. eg. you can get a 128-bit entropy password with 22 alphanumeric characters, or 20 characters with all printable characters.

calculations here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20678529

Re: NULL license plate not such a bright idea

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post #275

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Its a matter of principle though. Droogie hasn't done anything wrong, and is receiving fines due to errors made by the DMV. You're right that when faced with a choice between acting on principle vs acting pragmatically/for one's own benefit/convenience/need, people often don't have the luxury of (or patience for) choosing the former. But it's nice to see when someone does.

> Droogie hasn't done anything wrong That's arguable, actually. The article states, but doesn't provide evidence, that Droogie "hoped it might confuse automatic license plate readers or the DMV's ticketing system". If this was done in an attempt to evade enforcement of existing laws, then sorry: that's a crime, folks. You aren't allowed to pen test live systems!

Why would that be a crime? Intent is irrelevant. The crime is that the DMV is running shit code that is wrongly accusing people of crimes.

Re: NULL license plate not such a bright idea

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Its a matter of principle though. Droogie hasn't done anything wrong, and is receiving fines due to errors made by the DMV. You're right that when faced with a choice between acting on principle vs acting pragmatically/for one's own benefit/convenience/need, people often don't have the luxury of (or patience for) choosing the former. But it's nice to see when someone does.

TBH it's a very silly principle to fight for: "I DEMAND YOU HAVE NO BUGS!" And the DMV could just as well argue "Sorry, the bug is that we never should have accepted your NULL plate application in the first place, so we'll send you a non-vanity plate".

I agree with the outcome of your premise to some degree. But he did do nothing against their stated policies regarding vanity plates. They issued him the palte. I am of the opinion that if they have a flaw in their code, it is on them to fix it, not the 'customer' to change their situation after the fact...

Re: NULL license plate not such a bright idea

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A colleague used an app's "generate secure password" feature to change their ISP's web portal login - which then also became the WAN router's password - which they didn't realise. It was about a week before the router dropped its connection and needed to re-authenticate - and that's when I was called in to investigate the loss of connectivity - which Windows 10 very unhelpfully reported as the network cable disconnec…

Ah yes, this reminds me of my University account. I chose a long password generated with my password manager, which of course contained a chara66 that was both allowed at set up and usage. But because I had to frequently type it in without my password manager (i.e. on a University PC), I wanted to change it. But the change dialog asked for the old password and didn't accept it, due to the forbidden character. I had to go to the support who refused to believe my story and wasn't able to change my password. It took a few weeks to get hold of a person who was allowed to change passwords.

Re: NULL license plate not such a bright idea

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When I was a foolhardy college student I figured out that if the cited vehicle make on my city parking ticket didn’t match my registration, I could get appeal the ticket via a web form very easily and succeed every time. Naturally I removed the badges from my car and put on different badges from another manufacturer. After a while they started to cite me as “other” and the trick no longer worked.

All we had to do was register our cars in each others names. When I was married, my car was registered to her and vice versa. The redlight/photoradar laws in my state required that the company operating the devices had to match the pic of the driver violating the law, to the pic of the registered owner via the license plate. If they couldn't match them, no ticket was issued as you can't prove who was driving. That's…

Here in AZ, they'll lookup and assume the spouse. Of course, they're also required to serve the ticket in person.

Re: NULL license plate not such a bright idea

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When I was a foolhardy college student I figured out that if the cited vehicle make on my city parking ticket didn’t match my registration, I could get appeal the ticket via a web form very easily and succeed every time. Naturally I removed the badges from my car and put on different badges from another manufacturer. After a while they started to cite me as “other” and the trick no longer worked.

Relevant xkcd comic https://xkcd.com/1105/

Saw a similar one on the road in front of me with a combination of N's, M's and I think a W ... man it was impossible to get straight while moving.

Re: NULL license plate not such a bright idea

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post #282

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember a different story where the guy had to fight every ticket in court

On the plus side, he could also contest legitimate tickets unless they recorded other information.

I managed to do this at my university. I had vanity plates with a design made by my local Australia shire, which had the shire emblem between two parts of the plate. The plate was something like "123ABC" but I'm guessing emblem read as an O, so their scanners saw "123OABC", which was not a plate registered with the uni.

Each day there was a 10-20% chance I would get a ticket on my windshield. I would collect them and take them to the uni security office once a fortnite to have them cancelled in bulk. I actually got pretty friendly with some of the staff there.

At least 4 of them were legitimate tickets because I parked overtime, over a line, etc, but the staff cancelled them anyway (:

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