DuckDuckGo Expands Use of Apple Maps • Hacker News Board

Re: DuckDuckGo Expands Use of Apple Maps

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Post by jamessb » Thu, Jul 18, 2019, 12:39 PM UTC

jeromegv wrote: post #64

inferiorhuman wrote: post #53

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If privacy is worth something to you, it’s clearly better than Google. Is it? Has everyone forgotten the Yelp tracking beacon? Good thing Apple relies on Yelp for business info and has pretty deep Yelp integration with the mobile app.

Apple have shown times and times again that they wouldn't let 3rd party do shady things into their own Maps app, that's the whole reason they got rid of Google Maps. That's a baseless accusation.

> that's the whole reason they got rid of Google Maps

Is it? It was widely reported at the time (e.g., [1, 2]) that they were getting rid of Google Maps and creating Apple Maps because Google wanted to keep spoken turn-by-turn directions an Android-only feature.

[1]: https://daringfireball.net/2012/09/get_the_fainting_chair

[2]: https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-jilted-google-maps-over-verb...

Re: DuckDuckGo Expands Use of Apple Maps

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Post by mda » Thu, Jul 18, 2019, 4:24 PM UTC

pwinnski wrote: post #278

mda wrote: post #170

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I don't think there is much difference regarding privacy between apple maps and Google maps. What exactly do you loathe?

This is very untrue. Google knows where I live and work; Apple does not. Google tracks a "timeline" of everywhere I have been; Apple does not.

How so? Google only knows them if you want it to know. Totally under your control.

Re: DuckDuckGo Expands Use of Apple Maps

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Post by wkearney99 » Thu, Jul 18, 2019, 8:41 PM UTC

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #43

burlesona wrote: post #40

This is cool to see, and I think should be a virtuous cycle. As I understand it, maps is the kind of thing where more usage really helps make the map better, and while DDG doesn’t bring the scale of being the iphone’s default map, it should be adding a non-trivial amount of traffic. I’ve used Apple Maps as my primary map since it came out, and I’ve only gotten a wrong location one time in literally thousands of searc…

> Not saying it’s clearly better than Google If privacy is worth something to you, it’s clearly better than Google. I, too, use Apple as my primary map. In many cases, Apple Maps is better Google. The ones in which it’s behind are more than made up for by Apple’s values.

I'd argue "less worse" not "better". You're a fool if you think management at Apple is someone any less lacking in virtues than google.

Re: DuckDuckGo Expands Use of Apple Maps

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Post by wkearney99 » Thu, Jul 18, 2019, 8:42 PM UTC

wkearney99 wrote: post #283

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #43

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> Not saying it’s clearly better than Google If privacy is worth something to you, it’s clearly better than Google. I, too, use Apple as my primary map. In many cases, Apple Maps is better Google. The ones in which it’s behind are more than made up for by Apple’s values.

I'd argue "less worse" not "better". You're a fool if you think management at Apple is someone any less lacking in virtues than google.

somehow any less, not someone