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Re: Leaving Google Fi

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Google Fi support went down the drain when they expanded. I had a recent experience with my mother's phone being stolen while she was at a hospital, here's the summary after it was confirmed missing and police contacted, with a lot of redundant messages removed. 1st chat with agent Me Hi, my mother's phone was stolen, I'm tracking it on find my phone. Them: Sorry to hear that, we can black list the phone but you must…

I have been with Fi for several years and have never had a problem with customer service. I always call and speak with a rep who is readily available to help. My Pixel 1 had bluetooth issues and I was sent a replacement within a week. The second time it went bad because the screen stopped turning on, it was an equally quick turn around. Maybe voice is a better option than chat, at least in my experience.

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Re: Leaving Google Fi

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Great article!

Excerpt:

"Document everything. Write down dates, times, conversation points, who will do what and when. Get peoples’ names. Then if support drags on you can maintain some sanity and hold people accountable."

That's a gem of advice for anyone who needs to deal with an unresponsive customer service department in any nameless, faceless, and/or bureaucratic organization.

But, that being said, I wouldn't hold the lower-level people to be ultimately accountable... That's because they are usually not empowered to act by corporate policy, the proper infrastructure for action, internal politics, or any number of other company-imposed barriers...

Ultimately, what holds these companies to account, over time, is dwindling sales, the loss of profitability, and the migration of their customer bases to other companies...

Customers are always voting with their feet...

Re: Leaving Google Fi

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This is fraud. As soon as any rep sees the evidence of the fraud and stonewalls they are engaging in a conspiracy to commit fraud. At that point the law should take over. "The policy says I must break the law" is not a defence. "The fraud was opportunistic rather than pre-meditated" is not a defence. You can't break the law because of a company policy, you're a human you have responsibilities. Prosecutions need to ha…

> ordering a frontline employee to commit a crime with a policy document is a crime for all who wrote and approved the document In reality they never order crimes in writing, though. They say your metrics need to be above a certain level to keep your job, and the only way to boost your metrics is to commit a crime. See: Wells Fargo fake account scandal. My mom spent the last half-decade of her career (at a hospital)…

I found your comment about higher metrics eye-opening. Your mom’s story is heartbreaking to hear. That was such a cruel thing for her boss to force it upon her like that.

Re: Leaving Google Fi

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Trying to talk to a real person at Google is an exercise in futility. It’s like trying to contact a single person in the Borg.

That's most definitely is true if it's about one of their free services (gmail, youtube, etc), but I'm not sure why people expect free services to have the same quality of support as Amazon Prime where you're paying monthly fees + more for the products. Become an actual paying Google customer[0] and you'll get a real person. Of course, the issue here is slightly different. The author clearly did get to talk to many r…

It is possible to get in touch with a real person regarding their free services too. I recently had an issue with the Google Pay app and a pass which would not appear in the app. I contacted support through the support chat feature in the app and was talking to a real person in a minute. They led me through clearing the storage for the app which resolved the issue.

Re: Leaving Google Fi

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This nicely illustrates my experience with Google fiber. Even though I happily use some of their nest products I’d hesitate purchasing anything from Google I couldn’t just walk away from.

They don’t even attempt to be competent at customer service.

Re: Leaving Google Fi

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Or they're just plain incompetent. That's always an option too. My story: I bought the first google tablet. One of the incentives for ordering early was a credit in the google store. I used it to buy books. It turns out that when you depleted the credit enough and wanted to buy something that cost more than the remaining credit, you couldn't apply the credit and pay the rest with your card. In my case, I had like $11…

I understand the gripe about multiple payment options in Amazon. I usually end up with a gift card from some promo and it always seems to end up with $3.XX left on it. I want to use it up, but hardly anyone supports multiple card payments. Including Amazon. What they do support, though, is buying a Amazon gift card of custom value, and making multiple payments with that. https://jillcataldo.com/use_old_visa_gift_card…

Every time I try to convert a prepaid card to a gift card on Amazon it gets declined because of the temporary $1 test charge they do when added as a payment method. Then I have to wait a few days for it to drop off and try again. If I wait too many days (?), they will run the test charge again and I'm back to where I was on day one.

I'm sure there is a "right" way to do it but I've never been able to make it work as I want on the first try.

Re: Leaving Google Fi

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post #48

This is the difference between Google and Amazon. People have lots of criticism of Amazon, some I even agree with, but working here[0] one of my favorite little cultural things is that customers can and do email Jeff when stupid things happen. And Jeff reads them. Every now and then he'll forward one of them to a senior VP with a simple "?" added to it.[1] That question mark indicates two things: that you have 24 hou…

my takeaways from this story: 1. emailing "Jeff" amounts to emailing a central triage team, which doesn't necessarily sound better than emailing, say, a well-organized, decentralized support team where the customer knows more immediately who is capable of addressing their particular problem. 2. everyone who works at Amazon is deeply scared of Jeff. fear is a motivator, but maybe it's not the best motivator. 3. sendin…

Sending more than the "?", especially if it'd been done before, is a waste.

Re: Leaving Google Fi

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My wife and I left fi for exactly the same reason as the blog post. My wife had a problem with her pixel 2, and she was pretty much without a phone for WEEKS. We absolutely adored fi for years before that. We were huge advocates. After we had such a horrible experience being gaslighted, promised, and let down we just fuck this and went to AT&T. It’s not like we love AT&T. In fact, we don’t. But you know what we can d…

If customer support is important to you, I heartily recommend giving Ting[1] a try. They're a T-Mobile and Sprint MVNO. Every interaction we've had with their customer service has been excellent. Last I called, there was no phone tree, just a person immediately picking up (hopefully it's still like this). [1] https://ting.com/

Straight Talk > Ting, colloquially.

Re: Leaving Google Fi

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I wonder if this is a good thing. Really random aside incoming: I once was only able to quit my League of Legends video game addiction because I gave my account away that I had so much vested in (skins, all characters, rune pages) by basically messaging a random stranger, changing the account to their email, going to a random password generator site, changing the pw copy+pasting the password without me looking, and s…

He is an Android Developer. Getting banned could have career-disrupting or even career-ending repercussions for him. It is not exactly comparable to quitting a video game.

F-Droid repos.

Stop being so helpless, "hacker" community...

Re: Leaving Google Fi

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Google tried to hire additional customer support reps but none of them got past the whiteboard code test

As a former GCP support rep, this is actually true. Their strict hiring practices prevented them from scaling up support along with their platform, so they had to contract with other IT companies to provide the necessary manpower. Unfortunately, that also meant that Google's support was manned by people not up to Google's own standards. This started to change over the last year when they got sick of the lackluster su…

Evangelists and Teachers definitely exist in the tech space, however FAANG companies are usually headed up by people who marginalize them in my experience.
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