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Re: China Bans the Word 'Leica' on Social Media

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Post by 4ntonius8lock » Wed, Apr 24, 2019, 4:54 PM UTC

danso wrote: post #200

4ntonius8lock wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious as to what percentage of the US vs Chinese populations know about their own governments horrors? I mean, what percentage of US students would recognize the Tuskegee experiments continued until 1972? I've had many people straight up tell me that is a lie, or a 'conspiracy theory'. In fact, I think this post will get down voted, despite asking a perfectly valid question and having concrete factual examples.…

How has Tuskegee been “soft” censored by the U.S. government?

I never said it was the government, in fact I even specifically stated unwritten social norms. It's interesting that a straw-man is being used to attack the argument.

Society is a complex system. The west has soft censorship via control systems.

If you can't see any now, that is fine. But we can deduct they exist from logic.

Here's an example: We can recognize the old ones. US newspapers and schools had effective censorship of, for example, the struggle of gay people in the US. The struggle was there, but it wasn't talked about. No matter the mechanisms to achieve this, it is effective soft censoring. While this doesn't exist anymore, it would be unreasonable to think we don't have similar blind sides now (I see plenty, but... that is neither here nor there, I'm going off logic)

Re: China Bans the Word 'Leica' on Social Media

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Post by 4ntonius8lock » Wed, Apr 24, 2019, 4:55 PM UTC

AbitofAsum wrote: post #254

icelancer wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> what percentage of US students would recognize the Tuskegee experiments continued until 1972 Literally everyone who has ever had to take a medical or scientific ethics course knows this, since the IRB process was born specifically from this horrific abuse of science. I'm guessing most high schools cover it in US History and/or World History, also, as mine did.

I went to a rather nice semi-private high school (graduated 15 years ago) and Tuskegee was not covered

Thank you. It seems this is common knowledge in some circles. I know for a fact it isn't in others.

My post was just a question as to the overall percentage. Not whether there were any Americans who knew about the experiments.

Apparently asking questions and being inquisitive is bad now.

Re: China Bans the Word 'Leica' on Social Media

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Post by wahnfrieden » Wed, Apr 24, 2019, 9:25 PM UTC

mistermann wrote: post #220

wahnfrieden wrote: post #159

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As a symbol of racist misogynist hate of marginalized groups, not a statement against a totalitarian leader. What exactly are you comparing?

Perhaps comparing how different cultures dramatically interpret or react to images, and how we often view the behavior of other cultures in this respect to be odd or silly, while our unique behavior is based in rational, fact-based logic. But that's just a guess. Take your interpretation for example, am I mistaken to conclude that you believe all who post that frog are both misogynist and racist, or did I guess wrong…

I did not say that. Not really interested in clarifying for you here, sorry. Not was the poster I replying to making a good-faith philosophical inquiry of the sort you’re suggesting.