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Reddit's user uprising against China because Tencent will invest in the platform

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Re: Reddit's user uprising against China because Tencent will invest in the platform

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Ah, so you're one of the people that makes reading older threads on reddit a pain. Hope you know you directly made my internet experience worse.

> so you're one of the people... I am too. I'm happy you're happy. You got exactly what I owed you.

What's the point? wayback machine exists...

Re: Reddit's user uprising against China because Tencent will invest in the platform

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Don't you mean it's not an extremist right-wing haven? I've seen plenty of ant-left, anti-feminist, anti-liberal, anti-democracy, right wing conspiracy stuff on Reddit, and of course mainstream conservative and right-wing political content. But I don't necessarily think it's censorship to draw a line in the sand where extremism is concerned. Or if it is, then it's censhorship employed for reasons other than mere poli…

Almost none of those things you listed are extremist right wing. Politics are way too polarized and you're proof of that. I'm not even sure what you mean by anti-feminist but I'll guess "hate women and their rights", which I'll say leftists are guilty of disrespecting and sending threats to conservative women with "incorrect opinions". And anti-democracy is a funny point to bring up because a lot of far leftists from…

> Almost none of those things you listed are extremist right wing. Politics are way too polarized and you're proof of that.

As is you immediately making it personal, but I disagree. As is mentioned elsewhere, "extremist" is a relative term. Plenty of people would consider what I listed to be pretty extremist... but had you made a good faith attempt to read my comment, you would have seen that the premise of it was to point out that there is an entire spectrum of "right wing" content allowed on Reddit, from the mainstream to the fringe.

>I'm not even sure what you mean by anti-feminist but I'll guess "hate women and their rights", which I'll say leftists are guilty of disrespecting and sending threats to conservative women with "incorrect opinions".

Incels, redpillers, mens' rights advocates, etc. And you're correct that this exists on the left, but given that I never claimed it existed exclusively on the right, only that it existed on the right, I don't know what the purpose of the equivocation here is.

>On top of all this, you lump in anti-left and anti-liberal with your other categories of "evil", making anti-right and anti-conservative the good guys.

Who are you quoting here? I never mentioned evil. I never made a moral value judgement at all in my comment.

But... anti-left and anti-liberal would by definition be right-wing. I don't know why that seems to to be controversial to you, as you clearly fall into that category yourself.

>Your bias is showing, and you're alienating political moderates in the center. This is why people are not voting the way you want them to.

Oh.... I see. You're not actually responding to me, you're responding to the strawman.

Fair enough, you do you then.

Re: Reddit's user uprising against China because Tencent will invest in the platform

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You're clearly missing a bit of nuance on the context if you call tencent the same thing as the Chinese government. You think the CCP would be making investments into foreign social networks that they block? I It makes no sense. There's limited leverage over Reddit for the same reason. Anyone accessing them from China does it over VPN anyways.

>You think the CCP would be making investments into foreign social networks that they block? No, that's why they are allowing Tencent to do it for them. You think this deal doesn't have CCP approval? Tencent has an executive Party Committee who's explicit purpose is to make sure the company is advancing the Party's goals.

There are 100 million party members in China. It's a big part of getting ahead.

Of course the deal was approved in the boring sense. Neither that nor party membership mean that this is strategically interesting to the government.

Re: Reddit's user uprising against China because Tencent will invest in the platform

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I would assume state actors would need something more than a screenshot of a Reddit post to make a case either way.

Keep in mind that now two states have proposed laws that would require inspection of the social media accounts of any potential gun purchaser. There's zero specification in either law around oversight into or appeal of any decision to disallow a gun purchase on the basis of what the reviewer finds.

Fair enough, but have they passed and survived judicial challenges, though?

A proposed law isn't a law, after all. Anyone can propose anything.

Re: Reddit's user uprising against China because Tencent will invest in the platform

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What irks me about all this is that it’s entirely a one way street – American companies can’t go buying influence over Chinese social media companies because that’s simply not possible. These Chinese companies really want to have their cake and eat it too.

Re: Reddit's user uprising against China because Tencent will invest in the platform

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Ah, so you're one of the people that makes reading older threads on reddit a pain. Hope you know you directly made my internet experience worse.

This reads as passive-aggressive and incredibly self-centered. People don’t owe you their content, and it should be understandable that someone might want to remove their posts from a site that they no longer support. If it’s the rewritten text that bothers you, that’s just the unfortunate consequence of sites that scrape reddit live.

> This reads as passive-aggressive

To be fair it is, it was written in the heat of the moment.

> and incredibly self-centered

I don't agree. The commenter or anyone else who participated in the comments isn't an island. Threads now have holes and they read like puzzles with every 10th piece thrown out because the user decided to be self-centered.

You are completely correct, they don't owe me or reddit anything, but that doesn't mean that their act of disobedience, protest or grudge didn't leave collateral victims.

Imagine people re-writing or deleting their comments or answers on Stack Exchange. Sure, we aren't owed anything but it hurts thousands of people who click on it, and the website owner very little.

Re: Reddit's user uprising against China because Tencent will invest in the platform

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Ah, so you're one of the people that makes reading older threads on reddit a pain. Hope you know you directly made my internet experience worse.

> so you're one of the people... I am too. I'm happy you're happy. You got exactly what I owed you.

You're happy with thousands of people wanting to find something, read it and then find gaps in it? You're not screwing Tencent and Conde Nast, you're screwing the average person who now has half a picture of what happened in the comment section.

Re: Reddit's user uprising against China because Tencent will invest in the platform

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I wonder if the presence of a controversial subreddit like the_donald is good for business, increasing discussion, site traffic and thus revenue? Perhaps Reddit has a financial incentive to encourage (or at least not punish) subreddit drama.

Most probably. It's about the current US president after all, and it's the closest thing to an official forum/social network his fanbase/supporters have. If Reddit banned it, then they'd likely drive said users to a competitor (like Voat) and divert all that media attention from Reddit to said competitor in the process.

T_D went to voat already back when I still used it (I gave up because they refused to add the ability to mute users), they couldn't handle it for even a week.

Re: Reddit's user uprising against China because Tencent will invest in the platform

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> so you're one of the people... I am too. I'm happy you're happy. You got exactly what I owed you.

You're happy with thousands of people wanting to find something, read it and then find gaps in it? You're not screwing Tencent and Conde Nast, you're screwing the average person who now has half a picture of what happened in the comment section.

Yes, I'm happy when screwing.

Re: Reddit's user uprising against China because Tencent will invest in the platform

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> so you're one of the people... I am too. I'm happy you're happy. You got exactly what I owed you.

What's the point? wayback machine exists...

Exactly!
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