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Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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Used to love google, for many many years. Slowly starting to despise them, though. It's different for everyone, but for me it started with this gmail redesign that made the product so slow it's almost worthless to me. And worst of all is I feel like there isn't even a good competing service to switch to. And now Chrome...

What are your HW specs? Gmail is fast as ever for me, the UI works just fine on both Mac and PC.

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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Another reason to be glad that Firefox is still standing.

I really just don't understand the obsession with Chrome, especially in hacker communities. Sorry Google, I feel "icky & gross" when I use you.

It's Chrome devtools really

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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I really just don't understand the obsession with Chrome, especially in hacker communities. Sorry Google, I feel "icky & gross" when I use you.

Most young devs use a mac. And from what I understand Firefox is slow on macOS.

It's still slower than other platforms but it's much faster than it used to be. I've been using Firefox exclusively on OS X / macOS for a year. The only problem I've seen is that it sometimes uses more CPU than is reasonable, which often appears to be due to Gmail's terrible implementation.

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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Its not a free market

Browser choice is most certainly a free market. Microsoft, Mozilla, and Apple all develop their own, and their browsers are not beholden to the same pressures as Google (i.e. to not block ads).

Except for the Microsoft part, yes: https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2018/12/06/micro...

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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Plus Chrome just works better for a lot of sites. That might be because the site isn't properly coded, but users don't care. They just want something that works and more often than not, that's Chrome. My main browser is Firefox, but I have to switch over to Chrome more often than I would like. Electron is also based on Chromium, isn't it? IMHO, the rise of Electron just reinforces Chromium's status and I think Micros…

What sites?

I was doing some work with very large data sets in Google Sheets last week. I started hitting row and cell limits. Personally, I think a database is more appropriate for what I was doing, but spreadsheets are more grokable by non-techies.

In Firefox, macOS was showing 4+GB of memory usage and formulas would take hours to run. I switched to Safari where memory usage was closer to 1-2GB, but it had this habit of refreshing the page as soon as you switched away (before a formula would finish running). I finally switched to Chrome and memory usage was about 1-2GB and heavy formulas behaved in a way more predictable manner.

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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It's tempting to fall into the trap of feeling smug that you've made the right decision so no action should be taken against a company abusing their market position in a manner that's harmful to the public. Try to resist that temptation, like I have. I too have been using Firefox this entire time, but I don't let that tempt me into apathy towards the state of the industry. You may as well question the purpose of the…

> harmful to the public. How do you measure this? Does the public include content creators who rely on ads for their livelihood?

Relying on Internet ads for their livelihood is a tenuous position to start with, and always has been.

The (bad actors within the) advertising industry are the enemy of people whose livelihoods depend on Internet advertising because they're the ones making ads either bandwidth-hogging, epilepsy-inducing, website-avoidingly annoying, privacy-invasive, or an actual virus/malware vector.

This is, directly, what has caused the popularity of ad blockers to skyrocket. Tech-savvy folks protecting their family from these dangers by installing ad-blocking software so they don't get regular family-tech-support calls about the various issues potentially arising from "bad" advertising.

Follow-up questions:

How many user ad clicks / views does it take for the revenue to be critical to one's livelihood?

Could you consider donations through any of the various options like Patreon?

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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post #195

If uBlock stops working... I stop using Chrome. Simple as that.

Don't threaten, don't wait, do it now.

Not the person you're responding to, but no. Until uMatrix actually breaks for me, I'm not switching to Firefox.

Switching is a pain, and I don't like Firefox's UI/UX. I'd switch if they did this because I value the extension very highly, but I wouldn't be happy about it.

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