They should just ship Firefox instead. They would get most of the benefits, wouldn't have to depend on Google tech, and could probably garner a lot of good will from the FOSS community. At least for me, it would mean much more than things like open-sourcing VS Code and other such moves do.
Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10
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Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10
#282Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wait, I haven't heard of these recent stability issues with Windows 10 or experienced them myself. Do you have a link about it?
Maybe OP is mainly referring to the recent update issues where entire folders have been delated as part of the "forced" updates.
I've had to fix friends' computers who had their user profiles corrupted by an update so they can't log in.
Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10
#283What other options do they have? Even on HN you hear "I use Egde to download Chrome". Many of you here don't test your own work in Edge. At the same time Microsoft is getting the heat that Windows 10 is unstable and the last major update shows that it is. Very urgently, I imagine, Microsoft is trying to change the perception of Windows 10 by doing everything they can to make it more stable. Changing the browser engin…
Microsoft only releases it on one OS. so if you happen to use a Mac or Linux you need another browser. Chrome and Firefox are the only viable options. Also Microsoft are victims of their own legacy, namely what they did with Internet Explorer. Changing the box model, not adopting standards, not fixing bugs, causing no end of headaches for people having to support IE and so on. Trust needs to be earned. Apple had the…
Few things to note:
- Edge is (kindof) available on Android. It uses the Chromium engine, but includes bookmark and password syncing with the desktop version.
- Firefox will (depending on platform support) update in the background and notify you to restart (Windows), or it will apply the update at app start (macOS).
Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10
#284What other options do they have? Even on HN you hear "I use Egde to download Chrome". Many of you here don't test your own work in Edge. At the same time Microsoft is getting the heat that Windows 10 is unstable and the last major update shows that it is. Very urgently, I imagine, Microsoft is trying to change the perception of Windows 10 by doing everything they can to make it more stable. Changing the browser engin…
How can I test Edge when Microsoft don't release it for Mac and Linux? A browser for a single OS? Talk about monoculture.
Microsoft partnered with BrowserStack a while ago to allow free testing of Edge - https://www.browserstack.com/test-on-microsoft-edge-browser#...
Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10
#285More monoculture :(
I'm just waiting for the day Microsoft announces that they are dropping their own compiler in favor of Clang/LLVM.
Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10
#286As a firefox fax, I hope this isn't true. The dominance of chrome isn't good for anyone. This will lead to (even more) sites not bothering to be made compatible with Firefox. We are headed back to the "designed for IE" days.
At least the Chromium base is open source and usable by anyone.
If I had my way I'd test on Chromium and Firefox only. And only the latest versions.
I already don't bother with Egde. Safari is the only pain I still have to bother with. Apple should just make a Chromium browser as well.
Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10
#287What other options do they have? Even on HN you hear "I use Egde to download Chrome". Many of you here don't test your own work in Edge. At the same time Microsoft is getting the heat that Windows 10 is unstable and the last major update shows that it is. Very urgently, I imagine, Microsoft is trying to change the perception of Windows 10 by doing everything they can to make it more stable. Changing the browser engin…
Seeing what they did to the electron on VSCode, I'm really hopeful about their version of Chromium.
Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10
#288Earlier quoted context omitted.
>now all they can do is use Google's Wasn't WebKit Apple's first? And before that KDE's KHTML and KJS. Funny how the narrative has changed.
> Wasn't WebKit Apple's first? Yes, but while Blink forked from WebKit, it isn't WebKit. > Funny how the narrative has changed. That's because the facts changed.
Well, at one point 'all they could do' is take Apple's. And later iterated on it, which MS just might do in the future.
Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10
#289This is very sad, and a huge, terminal fail on the part of WHATWG to steer HTML, by making it so fscking complicated that it's infeasible to develop new browsers ever again. But maybe a monoculture was what they were heading for all the time.
Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10
#290Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can't quite put my finger on it but something feels wrong about blaming the general populace for Edge's failure as a browser. Microsoft is one of the wealthiest companies on Earth. They've had every opportunity to use every marketing channel and dump resources into the team to make Edge an obvious winner. But they didn't.
They want to avoid a second round of antitrust investigations. The first round was spurred in large part by the marketing push behind IE.
It's not antitrust unless you're pushing install your own products and only pushing your products.
You knowblike Google do if you access any of there services not in chrome "download chrome here", "this site works best in chrome".