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Shutting Down Google+ for Consumers

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Re: Shutting Down Google+ for Consumers

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Post by qznc »

tomjen3 wrote: post #173

My family is using Google+ to coordinate and share internal news (because do you really want to friend your parents on Facebook?). Given that they are going to close this down for us as consumers, what is our best alternative? I would rather not have to have the headache of running and maintaining software myself, but what options do you recommend? Or do we just have to bite the bullet and set up the Shaftoe e-mail l…

You can pick any of the open source clones and probably find managed hosting for that.

Your family Twitter? https://masto.host/

Your family Facebook? https://www.oxwall.com

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Post by sdenton4 »

ams6110 wrote: post #137
CobrastanJorji wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone always says "this always failed because it didn't do X," where X is anything they like. It's clear that it failed. It's less clear that the reason is necessarily any of the ones you gave. Every dominant social network has been a walled garden, and, contrariwise, every attempt to create a major social network based around federation and open standards has, so far, failed. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see o…

Mastodon and Diaspora are both horrible names for anything aspiring to be socially popular. The former conveys something lumbering, slow, and now extinct. The latter sounds like a gastrointestinal disease if you don't know what it means, and conjures up images of a group of people being expelled or fleeing if you do.

Also, toots.

Re: Shutting Down Google+ for Consumers

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Post by jpindar »

Apocryphon wrote: post #148
mindcrime wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're shutting it down precisely because no one was depending on it. How would anyone depend on a social network without any users? It did have users. I have no idea the exact number, and clearly it wasn't as many as Facebook, but it wasn't the ghost town people always made it out to be. Some of the Communities were actually quite active.

Where are these Communities, exactly?

It's widely used by various Open Simulator related communities, also by various groups of Ingress players.

Re: Shutting Down Google+ for Consumers

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Post by joethebro »

Latteland wrote: post #203

The post says they don't have evidence of anyone using the api that leaked all that personal info - let's not ignore that: name, picture, birthdate, email was just open to the world for a friend lookup! Second, they don't clarify if this is "evidence of absence" of a leak. Do they not monitor that api call but they don't have any reason to expect a problem? Or is it that they monitor it and no one used it in the "bad…

They mentioned the reason they weren't able to know was because they only kept the logs for a short amount of time.

Re: Shutting Down Google+ for Consumers

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Post by Marazan »

Marazan wrote: post #256
CobrastanJorji wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone always says "this always failed because it didn't do X," where X is anything they like. It's clear that it failed. It's less clear that the reason is necessarily any of the ones you gave. Every dominant social network has been a walled garden, and, contrariwise, every attempt to create a major social network based around federation and open standards has, so far, failed. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see o…

Google+ failed because of Real Names. It was a catastrophic misjudgement that killed the platform at birth.

Wow, found the 3 people on the Internet who thought Real Names was a good idea.

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Post by ggggtez »

xivzgrev wrote: post #257

Dear god google is going to make me accept each permission individually? That sounds awful as a user. I think it's a dark UX pattern to get developers to ask for less shit.

It sounds to me like it'll be more like what they did on Android. The dark pattern is not giving the option to deny a permission: "Accept everything, or you can't use it". This is the opposite of a dark pattern.

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Post by Ajedi32 »

p49k wrote: post #199
sctb wrote: post #93

Related discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18169027 . Edit: here are some other articles providing coverage: https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/8/17951914/google-plus-data... https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/08/google-reportedly-exposed-pr... https://techcrunch.com/2018/10/08/google-plus-hack/ https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-45792349 https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/google-plus-shut-down-... htt…

This is not a news article, though - it's a one-sided PR piece that greatly minimizes important points about the story and completely ignores other points (e.g. the regulation angle). You should have let another news story take its spot; there are plenty others that are not paywalled.

All the existing articles are just parroting what's already in Google's blog post. IMO unless there's some new information being added by third parties, it's always better to link the original source.

Re: Shutting Down Google+ for Consumers

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Post by signal11 »

_uhtu wrote: post #6

Google+ had terrible marketing and release, but it had some decent ideas that I wish other networks had carried over. The idea of "circles", where you had a circle for "acquaintances" "friends", "family" would be great on, say, Facebook, as it would allow me to filter down my feed to just the people I really care about but still have a connection to more distance acquaintances. Currently on Facebook the news feed is…

I found Google+ circles time-consuming to maintain. Facebook actually had a better idea with Graph Search, which would have let me direct a post to “my friends from Boston”, or “friends of my friends who like hiking”. Sadly it probably was too “power-user” a feature for Facebook.

Re: Shutting Down Google+ for Consumers

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Post by oh-kumudo »

The only surprise is that it takes them such long time to shut it down. It is clearly failed project; it is an internet ghost town; very very few care about it. It almost felt like the only reason it last to date is to protect some high profile executives' self-esteem, while being the living relics of Google's strategic mistake tapping into the social land.
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