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My Story as a Homeless Developer

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> I was still stubborn and would not agree to believing in the almighty bearded creator in the sky, so one of the two shelters would not help me. I know it’s really common but it still shocks me when charities make receiving support contingent on believing whatever they happen to believe.

I was incredibly humble and polite when I walked into that shelter. My past activism with the Catholic Workers which were a couple blocks away flagged me as a dirty communist liberal, in their eyes. I volunteered there in several different ways. When I asked that the other shelter let me become a member, I was brought into a room with three larger males and pretty much trash talked and intimidated. The guy that ran the place said something like "You think you're better than us?". I was almost crying at this point. I was hungry and tired. My knees ached. They thought I was a drug addict. I had just walked a couple miles from the library. He told me that if I didn't believe that I would die on the streets with no help. I politely declined to be subject to that sort of treatment and I walked out of that door nearly sobbing knowing that I may have to be cold again that night. But I will risk pain any day over giving power to people like that. Being content is the problem. I was thinking bigger picture. It may have helped me to conform in that situation, but it would be doing the next person in my place a disservice. I'm happy I was strong that day but many other times I was weak.

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What about changing your model to take a cut of the jobs people end up with? Then you'd end up being self sustainable. Recruiters take about a 20%, so with your one guy getting 100k you could help 10 more.

That's generally Lambda School's model - we train people to be software engineers for no upfront tuition in exchange for a share of future income for two years. We also have experiments running with housing and living stipends in exchange for a share of future income for three years. However, I consider recommending that to someone who is homeless and/or destitute exploitative. I can't put my finger on why, but knowi…

> We've found that the folks who are hired and now-housed tend to donate enough to keep the fund alive once they're on their feet, but I don't feel right requiring it.

That is awesome on both sides :).

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No house and staying in Airbnb’s isn’t “homeless.”

It fits some definitions of homelessness. You are, for example, considered to be homeless if you are couch surfing and have no permanent address or if you are doubled up illegally with family. This is often termed "hidden homeless." Rough sleeping is not the only situation that qualifies as homeless. A home is about more than a literal roof over your head.

Michele I always upvote your posts, you are a solid contributor here, ignore the haters upthread.

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You could have just purchased a UK phone number, couldn’t you?

The company could still figure out that he can't attend an on site interview and he's in Russia. By the way, Russia is a particularly bad choice. Russians are not permitted to work in London, it's outside of Europe and there is no immigration agreement. The resume won't survive the first pass from HR.

Russians are not permitted to work in London

London is full of employed Russians so your information is perhaps outdated.

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Hey Jesse, I'm also formerly homeless, and now the cofounder of https://LambdaSchool.com (YC S17). We have a nonprofit fund designed specifically to help out homeless software engineers looking for a job. I'd love to put you in a cheap airbnb or apartment, hook you up with Lambda School's career services team who will help review your resume, get your github and portfolio in shape, practice interviewing, and help you…

Hi austenallred , this is music to my ears. Have you ever thought of starting branches outside US(India in particular)? Here Udacity is trying to do the same but they are damn costly as per Indian standards.

Actively working on it

Re: My Story as a Homeless Developer

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Hey Jesse, I can sympathize with your situation, and I've seen you get some really solid advice in other comments here so I'll just add my 2¢ about presenting yourself.

I have a couple of probing questions, and I mean no offense, just to provoke thought:

1) What good is atheism as a worldview if it prevents you from communicating, and even receiving help you desperately need?

2) Why would a recruiter or potential employer care about your past, living arrangements, or financial troubles?

You sound like a smart, driven guy, but I think you're letting your situation and your beliefs cripple your potential right now. You don't have to _change_ those things, they're real, but you might want to limit who you share them with, or in what context, especially until you can find the help you need.

Wishing you the best!

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Hey Jesse, I can sympathize with your situation, and I've seen you get some really solid advice in other comments here so I'll just add my 2¢ about presenting yourself. I have a couple of probing questions, and I mean no offense, just to provoke thought: 1) What good is atheism as a worldview if it prevents you from communicating, and even receiving help you desperately need? 2) Why would a recruiter or potential emp…

That's his "activism" getting in the way of reality. Seems to be a common thread for people brought up in abusive "Christian" households.

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There is no implication as the post said nothing about the homeless. > That's how the immigrants do it Not really. Lots of generalizations there about immigrants. Some might have networks but many come here on their own with nothing and grind it out for decades to build up their lives. The key is persistence. Your post seems to be full of assumptions and complaints which makes it clear that you likely have never atte…

Speaking as someone who knows people who immigrated, the cooperation and help thing were huge factor - especially so among those who did low skill work. People moved in groups or seeked places where they knew somebody. It is hard life and they are not doing it completely alone without cooperation because that would make it even harder. (Offtopic: refusal to accept that people do help each other, give each other advic…

Speaking as someone who is an immigrant, there are just as many families who are on their own.

Culture aspect is real but it's highly localized, even to immigrants, meaning you don't get help from "your people" just because you share the same origin.

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I was internet acquainted with a homeless guy who did this for a while. I asked him about it as research. Because of my medical situation, I'm really not suited to this kind of work. But even if I were, I would have absolutely no idea how to get started. I was fascinated by the fact that he knew how to find these unadvertised jobs in a community he had never been to before. Even after him describing it to me, I don't…

I agree it's a blind spot, but also a kind of arrogance and privilege. I know all about the unadvertised work world because I lived it for years. Many other Americans do too, but not the kind of people who frequent this forum. A gross generalization of course, but in my experience it is primarily naturalized white males, Hispanics of both genders (some immigrant some not), and African immigrants that are "fluent" in…

I guess I would love to hear more nuts and bolts information on how this gets done. And that's not what I'm hearing.

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I don't think this is the place but they boast 96% employment of which 97% are in tech. They must be fudging something. https://lighthouselabs.ca/studentoutcomes

Thankfully, that page also links to their 'transparency report', which provides some of the raw numbers. The 96% you state is 237/247. Numerator is grads who accepted employment within 120 days. Denominator is grads who were unemployed and working with the bootcamp's career programme. But only 76 of those 237 were regular full-time positions. Another 78 were apprenticeships which led to full time employment. The tota…

Thanks! I didn't notice that they would send you a report.

It's nice that they provide it. I understand why they use such misleading statistics, it just hard to trust people that do.

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