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Re: GIMP receives a $100K donation

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Post by nemo »

lucb1e wrote: post #224
jasonjayr wrote: post #185

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It's one of those features that once you notice in Photoshop, you lament the lack in GIMP. The gist of it is that all your filters, color corrections are just additional layers, w/o manipulating the image in the layer under them. It lets you very quickly toggle between different settings, revise settings, and even very easily only filter parts of an image. (ie, you can have a unfiltered layer above a stack of filters…

How is this different from duplicating the layer (Ctrl+Shift+D for quick usage) and then applying the filter? It's two more manual steps (one hotkey to duplicate, and another action later to delete the old layer) but it doesn't sound like something currently impossible in GIMP.

Let's say you want to stack a contrast, a saturation, and a color temp adjustment layer (or levels/curves/or a color threshold/etc.), then want to keep tweaking them until you're happy. I do this often. Or you have them right but just want to change the mask a bit to add/subtract a bit you missed. Or change the image under those adjustments. It's trivial with adjustment layers and done in a few steps trivially. It's not if you're copying layers and tweaking away and backtracking and reverting in separate layers.

Re: GIMP receives a $100K donation

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Post by nemo »

dirkgently wrote: post #264
lucb1e wrote: post #224

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How is this different from duplicating the layer (Ctrl+Shift+D for quick usage) and then applying the filter? It's two more manual steps (one hotkey to duplicate, and another action later to delete the old layer) but it doesn't sound like something currently impossible in GIMP.

Simple answer is that those bitching about lack of features want GIMP to provide exact same features as Photoshop with exact same workflow. I wonder if these same people also bitch about learning new languages or frameworks when technology moves on.

If they had something similar that was a different workflow but was as powerful, flexible, and involved a few steps to do what you can do in PS in three or four steps but in the current GIMP in fifteen or more, then that'd be great. It's not that PS's workflow is inherently better, it's that I can do things in seconds that take at least a few minutes, far more work, and a lot more effort in GIMP.

Re: GIMP receives a $100K donation

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Post by dirkgently »

lucb1e wrote: post #277
dirkgently wrote: post #264

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Simple answer is that those bitching about lack of features want GIMP to provide exact same features as Photoshop with exact same workflow. I wonder if these same people also bitch about learning new languages or frameworks when technology moves on.

What I wonder is if they try to work on the features they claim to want so desperately (number one priority!) for years . But there probably isn't a lot of overlap between people who need gimp to be like professional alternatives and people who can decently code. In our IT study we had four major tracks and the people doing media design were notoriously bad at coding anything beyond HTML, and even that was considered…

That's true, but my comment was more about the HN crowd which is primarily (or exclusively) from programming background.

Professionals will always go with a well-marketed and popular option and they don't care about paying 500-1000$ for an image editing program. They don't care (or know) about open source. But I expect better from HN crowd.

As for GIMP and its features, well, when Photoshop firdt mentioned about the new Content Aware feature, there was a collective orgasm, but GIMP had that feature (by sheer virtue of the scriptability and flexibility which is inherent in its design) in a script format at least a year or two before that.

I don't expect GIMP to win hearts of professionals and their shiny macbooks, but for a casual heavy job, GIMP is more than capable, and expect programmers to appreciate it for what the GIMP project has achieved. But all we get here is "but but Photoshop!"

Re: GIMP receives a $100K donation

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Post by p_b_r »

RussianCow wrote: post #216
dboreham wrote: post #196

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You're about an order of magnitude off.

Do people really expect to be paid market rate for open source work?

I expect people will be paid fairly for their contributions. Are you in a position to be telling people what their time is worth? Or, possibly you're simply being a pessimist?

Re: GIMP receives a $100K donation

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Post by p_b_r »

RussianCow wrote: post #225
geoah wrote: post #218

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Why not?

Because I would expect that you generally sacrifice part of your salary for the ability to work on free and open source software full-time, much like you would generally take a pay cut working at a non-profit.

That's senseless. Non profit doesn't mean "worthy cause I should want to die on my sword for" it simply means the corporate financial structure doesn't accommodate profit-sucking shareholders, nor building the corporate coffers from year to year.

Re: GIMP receives a $100K donation

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Post by adiusmus »

boudin wrote: post #93
adiusmus wrote: post #83

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Last time I used gimp it wouldn’t save a file in different format - I had to export it. For someone that just wants to grab an image, touch it up and resave it, gimp just irritates. There’s at least another 50 of these kinds of small annoyances that add up to one large dealbreaker for me. Of course none are bugs - it’s likely just intended behaviour that the developers think is great. For what I need to do Krita is m…

That's more a question of wording rather than an issue. In gimps export is for formats with which you lose information (your layers for example), save is for formats allowing you to re-open you file as you let it and continue working on it

I open a file, edit it with changes and save it. If it’s lossy then the application should say so.

But as I said this just one annoyance of many.

I have no intention of logging these as bugs because from my perspective they are implemented as per the developers’ vision.

But not mine. So I use other applications because I find them faster. And again, I’m not a photoshop guru so don’t think this is about comfort and learned keybindings or other muscle memory.

GEGL on the other hand is something I’m going to investigate further. Being able to use that for workflow would be very useful.

Re: GIMP receives a $100K donation

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Post by p_b_r »

vultour wrote: post #246
dboreham wrote: post #196

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You're about an order of magnitude off.

I wonder what kind of wonderland you live in where most senior developers make close to half a million dollars.

Define "senior". Senior citizen developers? Or you meant that title should mean stature? If you're still coding after being at it for >30 years then yes, you're worth that to help level up entire teams. But, yes, given the prevailing definition of senior, sure, they're worth nowhere near that.

Re: GIMP receives a $100K donation

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Post by ngold »

ptero wrote: post #105

This is great, I hope Gimp puts it to good use. I would love for Gimp to focus more on artistic uses instead of only on software types (which is probably a vain hope). We would greatly benefit from a good artistic/photo image editing tool that does not belong to the Adobe's subscription license racket. Unfortunately, Gimp is not nearly in the same class as Photoshop, so most artists grumble about Adobe but still pay…

I'm genuinely curious out of ignorance more than anything. I've farted around with ps but since I've only ever used gimp as an artist, what am I missing?

Re: GIMP receives a $100K donation

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Post by grappler »

peterwwillis wrote: post #145
cheez wrote: post #60

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Well, I guess in the universe of scams, this isn't the worst outcome.

> The Handshake project has received 10.2MM USD from Project Sponsors. The net proceeds are pledged to be distributed to Free and Open Source Software communities (projects, non-profits, hackerspaces). Holy jumping jesus, this is the best scam I have ever SEEN! They've scammed a bunch of VCs into investing in their ICO, and they're now going to give the money to FOSS projects with no obligation! This project of cours…

there are probably worse ways to gain adoption for your domain name system than to get in the good graces of free software communities...
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