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Ecuador will hand over Julian Assange to the UK

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Re: Ecuador will hand over Julian Assange to the UK

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Snowden went to Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras who aren't with WikiLeaks.

This is true, but he also was financially aided, advised and accompanied by Wikileaks every step of the way. Nonetheless, you are correct. I would edit the previous post if I could, as it's not especially critical to the overall point.

>This is true, but he also was financially aided, advised and accompanied by Wikileaks every step of the way.

Prove it.

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This is true, but he also was financially aided, advised and accompanied by Wikileaks every step of the way. Nonetheless, you are correct. I would edit the previous post if I could, as it's not especially critical to the overall point.

>This is true, but he also was financially aided, advised and accompanied by Wikileaks every step of the way. Prove it.

Assange pays for Snowden's flight and hotel: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-security-reconstructi...

Assange advises Snowden to move to Russia: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/aug/29/julian-assange...

Sarah Harrison accompanies Snowden on his flight to Russia: https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/24/world/offering-snowden-ai...

Re: Ecuador will hand over Julian Assange to the UK

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That isn't what Wikileaks is doing. They aren't releasing "a trove of documents [that] can make the broader malfeasance much more clear". They are releasing absolutely everything they receive. The simplest example is their refusal to redact the names of Afghani civilians who worked with the US government and therefore put their lives in jeopardy. That type of action by Wikileaks says that they believe their political…

The example you give is frequently used as an example of Wikileaks being the cause of atrocities rather than the one revealing the atrocities. Wikileaks has been under attack by various governments for a long time, eventually resulting in Assange losing his freedom. But more importantly, the big news orgs (NYTimes, WaPo, etc.) who had initially partnered with WL on the war logs were pressured into ending their journa…

In what is Swedish law regarding rape unique?

Re: Ecuador will hand over Julian Assange to the UK

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The example you give is frequently used as an example of Wikileaks being the cause of atrocities rather than the one revealing the atrocities. Wikileaks has been under attack by various governments for a long time, eventually resulting in Assange losing his freedom. But more importantly, the big news orgs (NYTimes, WaPo, etc.) who had initially partnered with WL on the war logs were pressured into ending their journa…

In what is Swedish law regarding rape unique?

In Sweden, two people can have consensual sex, during which time both parties consider it to be consensual, and then later, one of the parties can reconsider that view and accuse the other of rape.

That is what happened in the case of Assange. Who knows where Assange ranks when it comes to his level of compassion as a lover, but neither of the accusers claimed that he engaged in non-consensual sex with them. It happens that this after-the-fact rethink is called "rape" in Sweden. Most US publications published this detail in the fine print but proceeded with a character assassination campaign against Assange calling him an "accused rapist" without shedding light on the small detail that most people in the US consider rape to entail non-consensual sex.

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In what is Swedish law regarding rape unique?

In Sweden, two people can have consensual sex, during which time both parties consider it to be consensual, and then later, one of the parties can reconsider that view and accuse the other of rape. That is what happened in the case of Assange. Who knows where Assange ranks when it comes to his level of compassion as a lover, but neither of the accusers claimed that he engaged in non-consensual sex with them. It happe…

Do you have a source for this (indeed peculiar) definition?

In France the information was that he had consensual sex first, then during the night he had sex without a condom unknowingly to her and/or when his partner was asleep (I cannot remember exactly) and it was this second case which he was accused of (which fits the description of rape)

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Glenn Greenwald isn’t a reporter? I’m sure that’s news to him

I wonder if the parent is being a pedant here, and meaning to say: "Glenn Greenwald is a journalist, not simply a reporter."

no, I wasn't being pedantic. I don't care enough about him to have any opinion either way, just that I'm pretty sure he defines himself as a journalist.
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