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Re: How to get kids to pay attention

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Post by __blockcipher__ » Fri, Jul 06, 2018, 3:06 AM UTC

bmn__ wrote: post #157

__blockcipher__ wrote: post #75

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It’s also not a “real” grammatical rule. Just a bunch of prescriptive nonsense

"He took care of my brother and I." "He took care of my brother and me." Which is correct? Remove the non-self part. "He took care of I." "He took care of me." "Me" is correct because it's the object. ---- "My brother and I climbed a hill." "My brother and me climbed a hill." Which is correct? Remove the non-self part. "I climbed a hill." "Me climbed a hill." "I" is correct because it's the subject. ---- This is a re…

Removing the non-self part is a made up rule. That's my point. I am very familiar with the rule and can apply it myself quite easily. However, the rule is total bullshit.

Re: How to get kids to pay attention

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Post by thomastjeffery » Sat, Jul 07, 2018, 11:57 PM UTC

robbrown451 wrote: post #279

thomastjeffery wrote: post #278

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Sure, but it's a different kind of creativity. The limitations are arbitrary and nearly impossible to get around. Computers, especially smart phones, tablets, etc. are being treated less as property of the buyer and more as property of the seller/manufacturer. For example: When it is very difficult to unlock a bootloader, then most people do not find it interesting to try other operating systems. Very few are more cr…

The kinds of creativity that are allowed are far more relevant to the question of kids and attention and the effect of electronic devices. My four year old has a chromebook, which she uses for a lot of things (of which watching inane videos on YouTube would be her default if I didn't intervene regularly to point her to better stuff). She'll probably be coding by the time she is 8, but she mostly does graphics and mus…

These limitations aren't constrained to toddlers. I have met plenty of teenagers who are stuck with similar devices.

This is a problem that has been somewhat avoided in the Android ecosystem, but the trend is definitely negative.

Re: How to get kids to pay attention

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Post by kaens » Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 8:26 PM UTC

InclinedPlane wrote: post #258

delecti wrote: post #256

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I am not arguing that corporal punishment is effective because society has progressed. I'm saying that people are inflexible and even irrefutable science is unlikely to cause an immediate societal shift.

So your argument is that humans are feral? I don't think that's supported by the evidence either.

His argument is that culture is slow to change.