Earlier quoted context omitted.
So it's not just malice but doubly so: they used an IP they didn't have the rights to and they're now blocking proper users of it.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"
AT&T updates firmware to block access to 1.1.1.1
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Re: AT&T updates firmware to block access to 1.1.1.1
#282I wonder if anyone has considered some sort of legislation whereby internet service providers are not allowed to block or disrupt service to certain parts of the internet in order to promote their own business model.
The argument I've made is that if they're blocking certain parts of the internet, then they shouldn't be allowed to call themselves an Internet Service Provider.
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#283Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe something about being neutral on the internet.
Net neutrality started disappearing long before it was even called "net neutrality" --- a lot of residential ISPs won't even let others send packets to the full 64K port range of TCP/UDP to the IP it gives you, blocking some of them for "security reasons", throttling/cutting off certain protocols like BitTorrent, censoring "malicious" sites, etc. If we want true Internet connections we're going to have to fight a lot…
Re: AT&T updates firmware to block access to 1.1.1.1
#284Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe something about being neutral on the internet.
Net neutrality started disappearing long before it was even called "net neutrality" --- a lot of residential ISPs won't even let others send packets to the full 64K port range of TCP/UDP to the IP it gives you, blocking some of them for "security reasons", throttling/cutting off certain protocols like BitTorrent, censoring "malicious" sites, etc. If we want true Internet connections we're going to have to fight a lot…
Me: hi can you open up some ports on my router? CSR: sure which port? Me: all of them
Re: AT&T updates firmware to block access to 1.1.1.1
#285Earlier quoted context omitted.
1/8 hasn't been "bogus" since 1/2010. ( http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-addr... ) Using unallocated IPs for "internal" or bogus purposes is sketchy, continuing to use them after they are allocated is something else. Especially so nearly a decade on.
The wheels of technological change in the Telecom space turn very, VERY slowly. Not upgrading equipment and configs for 10 years is nothing in the ISP world.
I had my stint at an ISP that worked with around 40 state level and national orgs. I saw the underbelly of how things work, and its frankly scary.
Re: AT&T updates firmware to block access to 1.1.1.1
#286Earlier quoted context omitted.
>In most areas there is effectively a government imposed monopoly on who can provide you access. And that government is elected by the people, right? Which means they could make this an election issue and vote candidates that don't support monopolies, right? I don't understand what part of my statement you're arguing with.
That would be less of a problem if most US elections weren't duopolies as well.
Re: AT&T updates firmware to block access to 1.1.1.1
#287This isn't malice. AT&T has an internal IP they assigned to 1.1.1.1 because it was unused and they used it as an image caching proxy so it browsing the internet would feel faster on early phones. I've seen it when I was reverse engineering on Android a while back.
stupid to think using the IP was a good idea
malice to break my device in order to paper over their stupidity.
And from a telecom no less - of all people, they should know better.
Re: AT&T updates firmware to block access to 1.1.1.1
#288This isn't malice. AT&T has an internal IP they assigned to 1.1.1.1 because it was unused and they used it as an image caching proxy so it browsing the internet would feel faster on early phones. I've seen it when I was reverse engineering on Android a while back.
Re: AT&T updates firmware to block access to 1.1.1.1
#289Earlier quoted context omitted.
So it's not just malice but doubly so: they used an IP they didn't have the rights to and they're now blocking proper users of it.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"
Re: AT&T updates firmware to block access to 1.1.1.1
#290Earlier quoted context omitted.
The wheels of technological change in the Telecom space turn very, VERY slowly. Not upgrading equipment and configs for 10 years is nothing in the ISP world.
You'd be scarily surprised just how much telecommunications runs on Perl5 ranging around the ~150GB level. I had my stint at an ISP that worked with around 40 state level and national orgs. I saw the underbelly of how things work, and its frankly scary.