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Re: Hey Microsoft, Stop Installing Apps on My PC Without Asking

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Post by emodendroket »

Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #269
emodendroket wrote: post #263

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The situation may have improved, but the last time I tried this Yabause was a joke and the non-Windows versions of Desmume and PCSX2 were like a year behind and clearly not the main priority for anyone.

I can't say I know much about Yabause, but Desmume and PCSX2 have worked quite well for me on Linux, no problems whatsoever. PCSX2 was last updated in December on Arch Linux, and Desmume is up to date with the latest stable release for all platforms. With respect, you should be looking these things up for yourself before you make claims like the ones you've been making in this thread.

Why the hell do I have to "look up" personal experiences I had that made me dislike using Linux and OS X? It's great to hear some of my issues were out-of-date but come on. I tried using these non-Windows operating systems and eventually switched back because I didn't like the experience. An imperious series of posts telling me that I'm wrong because there has been an improvement and, anyway, shouldn't want to do what I want to do, is not exactly persuading me to feel differently.

Re: Hey Microsoft, Stop Installing Apps on My PC Without Asking

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Post by Fnoord »

Alupis wrote: post #47
Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #26

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>Linux has more gaming than it did 5-10 years ago, but if someone wants to play a game at top performance on PC, you typically need to choose Windows. You can make an argument about the size of the respective platform's game libraries, but not about their performance. Games on Linux often perform as well as or better than Windows. There's no clear trend that suggests the performance of games on Linux are worse than o…

More and more games are coming to Linux, for sure (I'm a huge fan of games on Linux!), but Linux still is missing the latest-and-greatest AAA titles... think the Call of Duty's, Battlefield's, Skyrim's, Fallout's, Wolfenstein's... and many many more.

> Wolfenstein's

The latest ones you meant?

Cause Wolf3D, Return To Castle Wolfenstein, and Return To Castle Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory had native clients in early '00s when I played them. RTCW: ET was even completely free (as in beer). I played it for countless of hours!!

Back in those days we had a few people porting games over such as Ryan Gordon from Icculus or Timothee Besset (TTimo) from ID who ported, perhaps sometimes even as an after thought because the original floppies or CD (!!) didn't contain the Linux client.

We've come a long way. These days, you can just have one application to install a shitload of games (Steam, Humble Bundle) and you can find games for whatever platform you run, pay, install, and run it. With far, far more titles. Add to that: WebGL games are going to work on *NIX out of the box. Like Airmash, for example.

Re: Hey Microsoft, Stop Installing Apps on My PC Without Asking

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Post by Sir_Substance »

TomMarius wrote: post #273
Sir_Substance wrote: post #163

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Autocad/inventor->OpenScad/FreeCad Photoshop->Gimp or just run it with wine Lightroom->Darktable Here's a few other pretty awesome art tools you might want to know about BTW: Krita Blender Inkscape If we're doing "what abouts" though, what about: freely interchangable desktop layouts native docker support a user-friendly terminal an os kernel that is designed to be malware resistant Like seriously buddy, the GUI desk…

I wasn't asking for alternatives, that's not an option. You have to stay compatible with the rest of the company/industry. Also do you really think these CAD tools are comparable at all? Using Wine in work is also not an option, it is too unpredictable (although it's improving at a fast pace). I know Linux has these features and that's why I personally use it. Clearly they're not the focus of other users though.

>I wasn't asking for alternatives, that's not an option. You have to stay compatible with the rest of the company/industry. Also do you really think these CAD tools are comparable at all?

If you're building a helicopter, they're not comparable at all. However, the word professional is a rather wider scope than that, and they're excellent for anyone whos business does not revolve around engineering, but has it as an auxiliary. Just as there are whole industries, like banking, that have software developers as a subset of the org chart, there are whole industries that need just a little bit of 3d CAD work.

I would not recommend professional grade adobe editing packages to an independent real estate agent that basically just needs to crop and color-correct photos, and I would not recommend autodesk inventor to a city planner that just needs to 3d print stand-in terrain. Nor would I suggest a $40,000 stratasys printer to them by the way. If you're not going to use the advanced features then the cost is high and the licensing compliance is more painful for no net benefit. GIMP and FreeCAD are exceptional front-runners for these kinds of purposes.

By the way, staying compatible with the industry is a great way to be non-exceptional. I'm not saying linux is the magical bullet of business success (because it's not), but if whatever you're doing is 100% compatible with industry software, then you're not doing anything that someone else hasn't already thought of. If you ever decide you want to move outside the bounds of what others have already done, you'll suddenly discover that open source is a competitive advantage, because it's much easier to extend it to the bleeding edge.

Re: Hey Microsoft, Stop Installing Apps on My PC Without Asking

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Post by emodendroket »

majormajor wrote: post #252
falcolas wrote: post #217

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I'll give you (some) software development tools. Still, things like Sublime Text, Visual Studio, and the entire Jet Brains lineup which give lie to the "especially" part of the developer orientated toolset. But... Gimp is far better than Photoshop and Illustrator? Blender is far better than 3DS Max and Maya? Libre Office is far better than Microsoft Office? Darkroom is far better than Lightroom? Honestly, I can't eve…

Yeah. Making software to sell forces you to listen to the market (not the same thing as just listening to your existing customers) if you want to grow your sales. Emacs is more powerful than IntelliJ, say, but it's vastly inferior in terms of learning curve and UX. There are some things I'd rather do in it than in IntelliJ, but it's not what I'm going to use for day to day Android dev, say. Or what I'd point newcomer…

> Emacs is more powerful than IntelliJ, say

Depends how you define "powerful;" IntelliJ understands a lot more about your code than most Emacs plug-ins.

Re: Hey Microsoft, Stop Installing Apps on My PC Without Asking

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Post by emodendroket »

thomastjeffery wrote: post #240
falcolas wrote: post #234

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To be honest, it can be summed up with one sentence: Blender is striving to meet the features and capabilities of Maya and 3ds Studio, not the other way around. A more "business" orientated sentence: Blender is required to to split its focus to provide a complete movie/game making package including a movie editor, shader editor (i.e. photoshop), and animation editor, an audio editor, a physics editor, a compositing e…

I can comprehend what you are saying, but I disagree. Over the past decade or so, Blender has been on par, and even ahead of "industry standard" tools. It isn't required to split its focus. It is able to. That is something proprietary software from a company would fail at. It's something that free software and collaboration succeed at. The biggest benefit is that it has all of these tools in a cohesive environment. I…

> It isn't required to split its focus. It is able to. That is something proprietary software from a company would fail at. It's something that free software and collaboration succeed at.

Expanding feature sets is something commercial software fails at? The biggest reason nobody professionally uses the open-source alternatives is they're missing features.

Re: Hey Microsoft, Stop Installing Apps on My PC Without Asking

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Post by Sir_Cmpwn »

emodendroket wrote: post #281
Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #269

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't say I know much about Yabause, but Desmume and PCSX2 have worked quite well for me on Linux, no problems whatsoever. PCSX2 was last updated in December on Arch Linux, and Desmume is up to date with the latest stable release for all platforms. With respect, you should be looking these things up for yourself before you make claims like the ones you've been making in this thread.

Why the hell do I have to "look up" personal experiences I had that made me dislike using Linux and OS X? It's great to hear some of my issues were out-of-date but come on. I tried using these non-Windows operating systems and eventually switched back because I didn't like the experience. An imperious series of posts telling me that I'm wrong because there has been an improvement and, anyway, shouldn't want to do wha…

Because you're posting in a public forum and spreading misinformation about the platform with your ignorance.

Re: Hey Microsoft, Stop Installing Apps on My PC Without Asking

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Post by emodendroket »

Retra wrote: post #100
makecheck wrote: post #66

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Yes “but” how do expect open alternatives to become better? Contribute to a project (with a very low bar for “contribute”, anything from “file a bug” to “fix the documentation” to “make artwork”). Yes, some big companies also push Linux forward but individuals who want good alternatives can do something to make those alternatives happen.

I think if you make development of portable software much easier, then people'll have no excuse for not building software that works on multiple platforms except "we specifically choose to not target that platform."

Java's been around for a long time.

Re: Hey Microsoft, Stop Installing Apps on My PC Without Asking

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Post by emodendroket »

Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #286
emodendroket wrote: post #281

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why the hell do I have to "look up" personal experiences I had that made me dislike using Linux and OS X? It's great to hear some of my issues were out-of-date but come on. I tried using these non-Windows operating systems and eventually switched back because I didn't like the experience. An imperious series of posts telling me that I'm wrong because there has been an improvement and, anyway, shouldn't want to do wha…

Because you're posting in a public forum and spreading misinformation about the platform with your ignorance.

I see you haven't understood what I said. The specific examples I cited were real in the past. Even if those, specifically, are now solved, am I to believe this will never be an issue again? Because I think what's more likely is that non-Windows emulators will be behind by a few years in the future as well.

Re: Hey Microsoft, Stop Installing Apps on My PC Without Asking

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Post by Sir_Cmpwn »

emodendroket wrote: post #289
Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because you're posting in a public forum and spreading misinformation about the platform with your ignorance.

I see you haven't understood what I said. The specific examples I cited were real in the past. Even if those, specifically, are now solved, am I to believe this will never be an issue again? Because I think what's more likely is that non-Windows emulators will be behind by a few years in the future as well.

They're not behind, I doubt they've ever been behind, and if they get behind, it's a trivial matter to prod the package maintainer for an update. These emulators support Linux as a first class platform and hell, for several of them Windows is probably a second-class platform.
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