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Facebook – You are the Product

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Re: Facebook – You are the Product

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> I need very little social interaction Don't let that stop you from telling others how to socialize correctly!

Is friendship a good thing? Shouldn't we encourage others to have deeper, more meaningful relationships?

How does going to some event because you noticed an acquintance is going mean you won't have meaningful relationships? Those have to start somewhere too

Re: Facebook – You are the Product

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I stopped using Facebook years ago and I could not recommend it more. I found it to be mental pollution at best and and a total waste of time. If you want to 'keep in touch' with people, call or text them. Make an effort to actually interact with the people who matter to you.

So tell me, how do i replace around 5 different group chats i have on messenger which can have anywhere between 5-10 people in each chat? Music events that i go to are exclusively promoted on facebook. How do you recommend i find out about these events so that i can get a cheaper ticket price? if anyone wants to organize a plan that has more than 8 people, facebook groups make it much much easier. I personally hate f…

You know how when you recommend to someone that they should start going to the gym, they always have a laundry list of problems?

"It's too far away", "I don't trust them with my credit card", "I don't like exercising in front of people", "I need to be careful of my back", "I don't have time after work and I can't show up sweaty".

Ultimately, they just don't want to go to the gym. Nothing on that list is hard to solve, if you decide to go to the gym. If you don't have any drive to go to the gym, it's an unscalable and infinite wall of problems.

I can give you solution to the problems you've listed. In my experience, people will use other messenger solutions if you just ask them. Facebook users are a demographic that care nothing for installing another app on their phones. Pick one, and ask people to use it. Try wickr. There are dozens of online event organizers that can replace facebook's event RSVP, although I generally just talk to people like a human being.

If the music events you enjoy are promoted /only/ on facebook, then they're relatively niche affairs. Get involved with them. Hell, offer to be their "promotes in places that aren't facebook" guy in exchange for free tickets. Be a community builder.

But these ideas won't be acceptable to you, and even if they were you'd have a thousand other objections up your sleeve, because ultimately you don't actually want to leave facebook. I'm not going to try to frog-march you out the door, but lets not pretend there are actually any meaningful barriers there.

Re: Facebook – You are the Product

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So tell me, how do i replace around 5 different group chats i have on messenger which can have anywhere between 5-10 people in each chat? Music events that i go to are exclusively promoted on facebook. How do you recommend i find out about these events so that i can get a cheaper ticket price? if anyone wants to organize a plan that has more than 8 people, facebook groups make it much much easier. I personally hate f…

I stopped using the harmful part of Facebook, ie the newsfeed, which is designed to create an addictive behaviour, using the following technique. On every single post in my newsfeed, I tell the application I no longer want to see content from the source. It takes some weeks to dry up, but you end up with an empty page. You still get notifications related to your events, group activities, and you can still use the mes…

You don't need to do that. Simply use Adblock to block the newsfeed element (the infinite-scroll column in the middle of the page).

Re: Facebook – You are the Product

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I stopped using the harmful part of Facebook, ie the newsfeed, which is designed to create an addictive behaviour, using the following technique. On every single post in my newsfeed, I tell the application I no longer want to see content from the source. It takes some weeks to dry up, but you end up with an empty page. You still get notifications related to your events, group activities, and you can still use the mes…

Can't you just use messenger.com? It is what I do

This is amazing. Facebook messenger without the temptation of the notifications icon. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

Re: Facebook – You are the Product

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So tell me, how do i replace around 5 different group chats i have on messenger which can have anywhere between 5-10 people in each chat? Music events that i go to are exclusively promoted on facebook. How do you recommend i find out about these events so that i can get a cheaper ticket price? if anyone wants to organize a plan that has more than 8 people, facebook groups make it much much easier. I personally hate f…

I stopped using the harmful part of Facebook, ie the newsfeed, which is designed to create an addictive behaviour, using the following technique. On every single post in my newsfeed, I tell the application I no longer want to see content from the source. It takes some weeks to dry up, but you end up with an empty page. You still get notifications related to your events, group activities, and you can still use the mes…

I achieved this by unfollowing everyone and changing my browser bookmark to my most commonly used group. I never visit the news feed anymore because there's nothing on it besides adverts.

Re: Facebook – You are the Product

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I don't understand the problem, you can use Facebook for adding friends and messaging them and it's free. You can use Facebook Messenger, not use the app and use website for adding people and getting their information. The newsfeed there can be turned off or customised, if you do install the app, all notifications can be turned off. This is a good and free service, but if people don't know hot to use it, maybe there is a point in writing about it. Messages about deleting Facebook account seem counterproductive, because why throw away a good tool if you use it rarely and it's useful?

Re: Facebook – You are the Product

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Ask everyone to sign up for different methods of communication. Pick a method for managing the lists. Avoid the additional publicity public facebook postings get you when someone likes it. Those are real tradeoffs that many groups aren't willing to accept, regardless of how willing a single person is to shoulder the burden.

Ask everyone to sign up for different methods of communication That's exactly what you are doing by insisting on Facebook use unnecessarily, when email is the true common denominator (doesn't everyone in your friends list have email?).

Nearly everyone is already there, and the number that isn't continues to fall every year. Yes everyone already has email, but list management and group organization is much worse. Even compared to Google groups.

And the fact is that most people prefer it.

Re: Facebook – You are the Product

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post #166

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Few days? HN bug? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1325103 > 2659 days ago

He meant that he posted it prior to blue_beetle's comment in 2010. I had claimed that blue_beetle was the first person to put it on the internet, and he posted proof that he had posted a similar idea before blue_beetle did.

Alex3917 is either a time traveler or he's got superhuman memory. Speculation: 3917 is his mother year.

Re: Facebook – You are the Product

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I don't understand the problem, you can use Facebook for adding friends and messaging them and it's free. You can use Facebook Messenger, not use the app and use website for adding people and getting their information. The newsfeed there can be turned off or customised, if you do install the app, all notifications can be turned off. This is a good and free service, but if people don't know hot to use it, maybe there…

It seems you didn't read the text. The point the article is making is not about how to use the Facebook and its set of features. I will not try to create a TL;DR in a comment as that would not do justice to the article, but please read it.

It might help you understand why it is "free". You be the judge of if that is good or bad.

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