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Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by H4CK3RM4N »

kyle-rb wrote: post #218
DonaldPShimoda wrote: post #171

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> Isn't Apple violating user privacy in iOS just like Android? Doesn't seem that way. Consider the flak Apple took for standing up for users' rights with the whole Bernardino incident. And here's a specific example I read about a while ago. When you're using Google Maps, your device is directly identifiable in Google's servers all the time by a unique identification token. When using Apple Maps, your iPhone generates…

>ever wonder why Siri doesn't work as well as Google Assistant for a lot of people? You have some valid points on your post, but praising the inferiority of software based on perceived limitations of increased security focus seems like Apple cult-of-personality type stuff.

It's an established fact that Apple has traditionally refused to just use all of their user recordings as training data, and is willing to accept worse voice recognition as a result.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by H4CK3RM4N »

ariwilson wrote: post #222
sigjuice wrote: post #101

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Apple takes your money up front so they don't need to violate user privacy for business reasons.

Apple also sucks at using user data to make better products compared to Google, so it's perfect for them to claim concern for privacy as a business strategy.

Refusing to do something isn't the same as being bad at doing something.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by daxelrod »

inetsee wrote: post #128

What I'd really like to see is a database of information about employers that's not readily available until you become an employee, like non-compete agreements, intellectual property assignments, etc. If you've quit your job, sold your house / given up your apartment, moved all your stuff to a new city, then on your first day at your new job they hand you a stack of documents to sign including some (like non-compete…

Ooof, I've always had the privilege of getting these up front with my offer. I don't think I'd agree to an offer without knowing what all of these were up front.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by skuhn »

foobaw wrote: post #262
skuhn wrote: post #233

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It does notify by e-mail, sometimes to some people. I am a 'Follower' on every currently open job req, and a 'Hiring manager' on a few of the reqs. I'm not a 'posting owner' on any of the current reqs. There are 13 open applicants today, and I received e-mail notifications for zero of them. This has been a recurring, long term problem with Lever -- and my company has used it for 3+ years (and still does, although we…

What is your company transitioning to?

We moved to JobScore based on a recruiter recommendation. I wouldn't say that I love it, but it does reliably notify hiring managers and it has a humongous list of job boards that it integrates with.

The web UI is a bit old fashioned, and there's less functionality in some respects, but I find it easier to accomplish the basic tasks in. Really the only thing that I miss from Lever is the ability to go directly from one candidate to the next.

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Post by celim307 »

Denzel wrote: post #260
dmoy wrote: post #228

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She donated all of her share ($150m) to charity to boot.

For an extra $30MM in tax write-offs... because clearly she stands to make more taxable income than the $150MM in stock she donated: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10844592 .

I don't think you know how tax write offs work...

https://youtu.be/XEL65gywwHQ

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Post by Sohcahtoa82 »

oh_sigh wrote: post #268
dmoy wrote: post #228

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She donated all of her share ($150m) to charity to boot.

That's nice, but let's be honest: She is a billionaire, and will continue to make hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars during her future tenure at Google. A person of average means donating $500 may be a bigger personal sacrifice than Greene donating $150M.

Are you seriously trying to brush off and dismiss a $150m charity donation?

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by celim307 »

agentgt wrote: post #41

My company makes recruiting software and it we knew it was only a matter of time (a couple of years ago... now its obvious) before Google would enter the recruiting industry. Particularly because the major players other than LinkedIn basically rely entirely on Google. All Indeed, Monster, CareerBuilder do is buy Google Ads and then essentially resells the marketing. This is similar to the situation TripAdvisor is in…

Yello?

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Post by mLuby »

daxelrod wrote: post #283
inetsee wrote: post #128

What I'd really like to see is a database of information about employers that's not readily available until you become an employee, like non-compete agreements, intellectual property assignments, etc. If you've quit your job, sold your house / given up your apartment, moved all your stuff to a new city, then on your first day at your new job they hand you a stack of documents to sign including some (like non-compete…

Ooof, I've always had the privilege of getting these up front with my offer. I don't think I'd agree to an offer without knowing what all of these were up front.

Was that just luck or did you have to negotiate for that privilege? If so I'm curious how that conversation goes…

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Post by taneq »

ehsankia wrote: post #140
lettergram wrote: post #10

I for one, will never use a Google product again. They level of creepiness and data they have on all their users is insane. I personally have switched to DuckDuckGo, Fastmail, FireFox (the mobile browser is awesome btw), and will replace Android as soon as a viable alternative is presented. Smooth sailing. The problem with Google, is they are building a repository for themselves, but also for government. Couple that…

It's easy to critique them for being too big, but what solution do you have? Would you propose that they just... stop scaling? Stop making new products? I realize that they are really big, and with more products, they get more data, but imagine for one second that your goal truly was to help customers and provide them with as many useful tools as possible, what options would you have? You either make more products th…

It's not about being big. It's about the fact that every product they release is deliberately designed to siphon more data off their users. Everything's stored server-side, everything's identifiable, everything's quid-pro-quo where the service is crippled without your data.

A prime example is the way they now channel so much of Android's data through Google Play Services. The updated permissions model is great if you want to stop third parties creeping on you, but with everything going through Google Play Services, your phone can only give you data if that data first goes to Google. If you don't permit Google Play Services to access your location, not only does Maps pettily default you to the wrong continent but even the Gmail app scolds you for having location data turned off.

Don't conflate 'deliberately invasive' with 'big'.

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Post by thaumasiotes »

ammon wrote: post #190
thaumasiotes wrote: post #124

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"Resumé" appears to have a very special meaning to some people. Triplebyte specifically advertises a "no-resumes" process. But when I interviewed with them, the first thing they asked was "where have you worked before, and what did you do there?"

We (Triplebyte) don't ask engineers where they've worked until the end of the final interview. It's the last thing we ask (after all the technical evaluation and scoring is done). We regularly find and pass great programmers who are totally self-taught (and would have been screened out by any resume screen process). We ask about previous work at the end because we want statistics on who is applying to us. This lets u…

I'm willing to believe that my memory is wrong and the question came later. But "resumes when we ask for them, which we guarantee we will do" is not quite the same policy as "no resumes".
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