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Re: Chrome Won

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Post by fnord123 »

chx wrote: post #201
MBCook wrote: post #61

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The problem is we're moving extremely fast to a chrome only world. If it wasn't for corporate sites and the success of the iPhone chrome would probably be dominating the way IE used to. I definitely run into sites that only work on chrome and not in any other browser. In my opinion chrome isn't doing a good job either. It's a massive energy hog and waste more CPU than it needs to. Unlike IE and FireFox and Safari it…

Try http://www.linksys.com/us/special-deals-and-refurbished/c/Re... buying a refurbished router from Linksys with anything but IE. When you click Guest Checkout your cart will be empty. Dead end.

I've had this on sites that switch domain for the checkout process while I had cookie killer installed. Leaving the first domain dumped the cookies and hence the basket.

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by majewsky »

themihai wrote: post #272
Arizhel wrote: post #126

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>Unlike IE and FireFox and Safari it comes from a company that is notorious for wanting to know everything about you. That's not true. Microsoft has now gotten into the spying business, and is infamous for the Windows 10 telemetry. They're basically copying Google. Firefox and Safari are the only ones that come from companies that aren't notorious for wanting to know everything about you. And Firefox doesn't try to g…

Firefox sends the DOM hashes to Google just like Chrome.

Can you explain this? I've never heard of "DOM hashes" before.

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by mattcoles »

ishbits wrote: post #73
buu700 wrote: post #17

In fairness to Firefox, at this point I'm just waiting for their dev tools to get as good as Chrome's before I seriously consider switching, and other efforts like Quantum certainly make the prospect even more attractive. Once they have me on desktop, I'll want to switch on mobile as well for the state syncing benefits. I wouldn't be surprised if a sizeable portion of Chrome users were in a similar boat, quietly wait…

2 things keep me on Chrome. First, the overly large titlebar on Linux. I've tried some addons to make it more like Chrome but they all look like shit. And second, the dev tools. I find dev tools in Firefox clumsy to use. I believe I originally switched to Chrome for the dev tools when I ventured into frontend development.

Have you tried something like [1]? I don't know if it works on Linux but it's a big improvement if you prefer vertical space.

[1] https://testpilot.firefox.com/experiments/tab-center

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by jerrre »

baby wrote: post #274
cies wrote: post #63

So Mozilla lost Firefox OS. And their browser share is smaller then Chrome, and then it was, but still top tier and winning from M$. I'm much less pessimistic. Besides a cross platform and extensible browser we see also the following coming out of Mozilla: * Rust, a modern low-level programming language with cutting edge "safety" build in at zero runt time cost, luring many system programmers. * Servo, tomorrow brows…

Let's not forget that Firefox also has Tree Style Tabs, which for power users is the good reason not to use Chrome and use Firefox instead.

This is the main reason I haven't switched

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by majewsky »

coldtea wrote: post #237
lewisl9029 wrote: post #66

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Agreed that Mozilla's original mission has been accomplished in spades, but I wouldn't count Mozilla out of the browser race just yet. Servo and Webrender[0] will completely shake up the browser landscape, and will allow web apps to match (maybe even surpass?) native mobile apps in terms of rendering performance. Unless Chrome, IE, and Safari can develop an answer to Servo and Webrender by the time those technologies…

> Servo and Webrender[0] will completely shake up the browser landscape, and will allow web apps to match (maybe even surpass?) native mobile apps in terms of rendering performance. Unless Firefox (and Servo) gets it GUI to not feel alien and clunky, it wont matter if it has a faster rendering engine. Rendering engines are plenty fast as it is anyway, it's CPU use and battery impact that matters to users. And when pe…

> it wont matter if it has a faster rendering engine [...] its CPU use and battery impact that matters to users

You make it sound like these are two orthogonal aspects. When rendering is faster, CPU usage obviously goes down. As does battery impact, since the CPU can go back to a sleep state faster.

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by st3fan »

themihai wrote: post #272
Arizhel wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Unlike IE and FireFox and Safari it comes from a company that is notorious for wanting to know everything about you. That's not true. Microsoft has now gotten into the spying business, and is infamous for the Windows 10 telemetry. They're basically copying Google. Firefox and Safari are the only ones that come from companies that aren't notorious for wanting to know everything about you. And Firefox doesn't try to g…

Firefox sends the DOM hashes to Google just like Chrome.

Can you please explain this in more detail? Ideally with an example request that you see?

(I highly doubt that there is any truth to this claim)

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by [deleted] »

themihai wrote: post #272
Arizhel wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Unlike IE and FireFox and Safari it comes from a company that is notorious for wanting to know everything about you. That's not true. Microsoft has now gotten into the spying business, and is infamous for the Windows 10 telemetry. They're basically copying Google. Firefox and Safari are the only ones that come from companies that aren't notorious for wanting to know everything about you. And Firefox doesn't try to g…

Firefox sends the DOM hashes to Google just like Chrome.

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Re: Chrome Won

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Post by [deleted] »

themihai wrote: post #272
Arizhel wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Unlike IE and FireFox and Safari it comes from a company that is notorious for wanting to know everything about you. That's not true. Microsoft has now gotten into the spying business, and is infamous for the Windows 10 telemetry. They're basically copying Google. Firefox and Safari are the only ones that come from companies that aren't notorious for wanting to know everything about you. And Firefox doesn't try to g…

Firefox sends the DOM hashes to Google just like Chrome.

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Re: Chrome Won

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Post by [deleted] »

themihai wrote: post #272
Arizhel wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Unlike IE and FireFox and Safari it comes from a company that is notorious for wanting to know everything about you. That's not true. Microsoft has now gotten into the spying business, and is infamous for the Windows 10 telemetry. They're basically copying Google. Firefox and Safari are the only ones that come from companies that aren't notorious for wanting to know everything about you. And Firefox doesn't try to g…

Firefox sends the DOM hashes to Google just like Chrome.

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Re: Chrome Won

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Post by majewsky »

thr0waway1239 wrote: post #131
gkoberger wrote: post #51

I agree with this blog post. But I don't think Mozilla lost. I worked for Mozilla for a few years, after seeing John Lily (CEO at the time) speak. It was right after Chrome started getting popular, and a smug person in the crowd asked him about how he felt about Chrome. John's response was awesome. "This is the web that we wanted. We exist not because we want everyone to use Firefox, but because we wanted people to h…

>> We really need someone to fight for our privacy and neutrality. Well said. I certainly hope it is not a PR stunt, but WordPress is probably the other big player in the fight for the open web. It might actually benefit all of us if Automattic starts making a lot of noise about privacy. And ultimately, its not as if anyone wants any of these tech giants to completely fail (well, maybe Facebook). What we want is to n…

> What we want is to not have the nature of the web changed to suit the whims of a handful of companies.

I feel like we're ten years late for this concern.

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