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Re: System76 is moving product design and manufacturing in house

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Does Thinkpad X1 Carbon 5th work well with Linux? Linux is pushing me towards the XPS 13 Also looks like the X1 is capped at 8GB ram? 16 GB is a minimum, and you can easily get on an XPS 13.

I would be surprised if it's capped at 8GB RAM. My 4th gen X1 Carbon has 16GB.

Can you find me a link to buy it with 16gb?

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Dont they have a contract with RedHat to ensure compatibility?

Yes, in my experience, the only thing that doesn't work is the fingerprint reader: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/Validity-Finge...

Indeed. Everything works on my X1 Carbon running Arch (via Antergos), except the fingerprint reader.

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Does Thinkpad X1 Carbon 5th work well with Linux? Linux is pushing me towards the XPS 13 Also looks like the X1 is capped at 8GB ram? 16 GB is a minimum, and you can easily get on an XPS 13.

Doesn't the XPS13 only go to 16GB? My understanding is that you need DDR4 to get 32GB RAM in a laptop.

As an owner of the 13 and the 15, yes. The 13 has a ULV i7 with <=16GB. But the 15 has a full i7 and goes to 32.

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It's funny that you wrote about Thinkpads, for example currently Thinkpad X1 Carbon (5 gen) is the best ultrabook on the market (including macbooks pro, yes nowadays macbooks pro are ultrabooks).

Does Thinkpad X1 Carbon 5th work well with Linux? Linux is pushing me towards the XPS 13 Also looks like the X1 is capped at 8GB ram? 16 GB is a minimum, and you can easily get on an XPS 13.

Typing this on Carbon 3rd Gen. Linux works perfectly, out of the box, and always has been. Its a fantastic laptop, much better than the XPS. The keyboard is a different league, with proper travel and feel, and the build quality is much better. It feels solid, yes very light.

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I agree, but this is more of a documentation issue than anything. I stopped bothering to look at the Ubuntu "supported hardware" page a few years ago because I could tell from the graphics card listed (and not listed) that it hadn't been updated since about 2011. I appreciate that hardware testing is complex and expensive, but I'd love to see an annual "high spec" and "low spec" Ubuntu reference build, with a price t…

Someone could do the legwork of selecting one such system each year, put it up somewhere and collect referral commissions. Much like voter guides help those interested to gain political clout just by doing their own research and publishing it.

That wouldn't represent a support commitment from Canonical. I'm hoping for less of "this worked last time I tried it" and more "We've found this hardware fairly easy to support, and we're willing to commit to making sure that this specific combo works flawlessly in all cases, and will have functional upgrade paths".

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I would be surprised if it's capped at 8GB RAM. My 4th gen X1 Carbon has 16GB.

Can you find me a link to buy it with 16gb?

You have to upgrade the CPU and then the 16GB memory option becomes available. (At the time of writing, the two CPU upgrade options are the i5-7300U and the i7-7600U.)

Re: System76 is moving product design and manufacturing in house

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Can you find me a link to buy it with 16gb?

You have to upgrade the CPU and then the 16GB memory option becomes available. (At the time of writing, the two CPU upgrade options are the i5-7300U and the i7-7600U.)

Hah terrible page design!

So XPS 13 has a similar problem where you need to buy the max CPU to get the 16 GB upgrade.

So comparing side by side..

XPS 13 with 512 GB SSD, 16 GB ram, i7-7560U CPU, 3200 x 1800 screen is about $1900.

X1 Carbon with 512 GB SSD, 16 GB ram, i5-7300U CPU (a touch slower), and 1920x1080 display, and force shipped with Windows (could not find ubuntu version) is about $2800

X1 does look nice, but not sure it is $1000 nicer than XPS 13.

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> Anecdata, but my desktop Lenovo workstation's suspend function worked well with Linux, but after an update (few months ago) it never resumes successfully. Nothing in logs -- just simply doesn't wake up properly. (4.10 kernel.) These are painful things. That sounds like my experience with Windows 10 on my gaming PC. I only use that machine when gaming, and while it has a Now, this is on a PC I built, but I used a co…

I had similar, terrible issues with my gaming rig when I let Windows auto-update from 7 to 10. I found that there is an option in system update to "restore" or "auto-fix" the OS. You might start by trying that. I found that I needed to let the entire thing be wiped (including all software) and re-installed in order to get it working. A long time and complete pain in the ass, but it's much better now. Just as a piece…

> Just as a piece of warning if you go that route: MS decided that my legit MS office keys were "Pirated" because they were old and wanted me to upgrade (after telling me that it was a valid key 3 hours before)

This happened to me after my first upgrade to Windows 10. I had a legit copy of Office 2010, and when I upgraded my Windows 7 installation to Windows 10 during the free year, I opted to do a clean OS install after 10 was activated. Upon reinstalling Office and inputting my key, at first it activated then it threw my Office install into an unactivated state and told me to contact my administrator. Umm, what? I'm the administrator and this was a retail purchased and licensed copy that worked fine before being installed on Windows 10. I even tried reverting to Windows 7 and installing Office on that, but it never activated and gave me the same message.

Thankfully I don't really rely on Office anymore and can get by with F/OSS alternatives or Office Online, but it definitely sucks that Microsoft appears to try pushing its business customers into O365 subscriptions and away from traditionally licensed software using what I feel should be illegal tactics.

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The posts comparing various laptops to the Dell XPS 13 and calling them similarly sized are missing a key point: the XPS 13's lack of bezels. It is a 13" screen, but due to the lack of bezels, it basically fits in an 11" chassis. I think that's an often overlooked detail and one of the pieces of "sexiness" that makes it very difficult to want to switch away from an XPS 13: it's so damn portable. System76 needs to com…

Why do we need another XPS 13 when they already have the developer edition of it that supports Ubuntu?

Like others have said, Lenovo's Thinkpad contract with Red Hat is tenuous at best and their quality has only been getting worse. Its not a default install, its not first class, and Lenovo is not dedicating staff to driver support in consumer products. We have the XPS developer edition program making great ultraportables for Linux. We need a business class workstation notebook in the 17" form factor with ruggedness and great features that has complete and total Linux support and inclusion out of the box.

Re: System76 is moving product design and manufacturing in house

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I had similar, terrible issues with my gaming rig when I let Windows auto-update from 7 to 10. I found that there is an option in system update to "restore" or "auto-fix" the OS. You might start by trying that. I found that I needed to let the entire thing be wiped (including all software) and re-installed in order to get it working. A long time and complete pain in the ass, but it's much better now. Just as a piece…

> Just as a piece of warning if you go that route: MS decided that my legit MS office keys were "Pirated" because they were old and wanted me to upgrade (after telling me that it was a valid key 3 hours before) This happened to me after my first upgrade to Windows 10. I had a legit copy of Office 2010, and when I upgraded my Windows 7 installation to Windows 10 during the free year, I opted to do a clean OS install a…

Completely agree with you. I have in writing that my key would be good, even though the MS site said that there was an error and I needed to check with Customer Service. I then explained this to three people, whom found the written statement and said they couldn't/refused to fix the problem. They just wanted to sell my an O365 subscription.

As to how legal their tactics are, I'm not sure. I do know before I would never have considered anything other than MS, I'm now left to moving onto Mac's because I cannot give them more money and the work I do tends to now work in the Linux or alternative OS environments. Lots of industrial software that is touchy enough as it is...

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