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Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by andrewingram »

egeozcan wrote: post #56
bjacobel wrote: post #51

Some of Atlassian's previous acquisitions have turned into products mostly shunned by the developer community (Hipchat, Bitbucket) - I hope they've learned what went wrong since then, but my gut says Atlassian isn't very good at integrating external teams and supporting their products. Hopefully Trello won't go down the same path.

Who is shunning Bitbucket and why? Something happened that I missed?

Even prior to its acquisition. I seriously disliked finding projects on Bitbucket, the UX just seems to be wrong for how I want to interact with codebases and documentation. It's only gotten worse since they were bought.

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Post by dsacco »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #233
TillE wrote: post #224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No it's really not. "Damning with faint praise" is when, say, you've just effusively praised something else, and then say that the alternative is pretty good. The "least-worst option" means it's not good, but all the alternatives are terrible. That's not damning.

Googling around, the definition that comes up is: > Damning with faint praise is an English idiom for words that effectively condemn by seeming to offer praise which is too moderate or marginal to be considered praise at all. Which seems about right to me. It's like writing an employee a letter of reference, and only saying that they're very punctual - meaning that there's nothing else good about them, other than the…

No. If someone asked you to recommend two employees, and you absolutely gushed about one, but then said the other is "always on time" and "reliable worker", etc. that would be damning with faint praise.

Saying that one employee is the least worst employee you have when someone calls you for a reference means they are the best employee. It also means you aren't particularly happy with any of them, but that's just adding a flavor to the sentiment that this employee is your best.

Now, if I asked you to recommend a bunch of project management/issue tracking software suites, and you absolutely floored me with praise for one, but said good but forgettable things about JIRA, that would be be damning with praise.

Coming full circle, saying that JIRA is the least-worst option means it's the best option and you just have an ideal in your head that isn't being met.

They're utterly different things, really.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by chinhodado »

Gelob wrote: post #248
bhouston wrote: post #6

This makes sense. Atlassian is good at making money from its services and it is increasing its overall ecosystem here. Github moves really slow in comparison. I guess Github is more focused, but there are a lot of contrasts between Github and Atlassian, and in terms of making money I think Atlassian is doing a lot better. Has Github acquired anything significant? Github should have acquired Zenhub (which is Trello in…

Thats about all Atlassian is good at. HipChat has become an abomination of a client across Windows and Mac. Every new release is about fixing functionality they broke with the previous release and even then it still isn't fixed. Logging in from multiple places has always been terrible. I'll be logged in on Mac and available but randomly get emails as if I'm offline. I'll be online on my phone and get e-mails. I wan't…

And don't even get me started on SourceTree. Just about every release since 1.5.2 is a disaster, to the point of almost non-usable right now.

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Post by ChuckMcM »

Makes a lot of sense although I expect at least one of my former co-workers is really is really irritated because they hate Jira and were feeling "forced" to use it. Perhaps with this acquisition there will be a 'local server' option which is something some companies really look for.

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Post by brilliantcode »

Is it just me or the acquisition amounts decreasing?

Soundcloud - $500M potential buyout

Trello - $425M

I'm not aware of any other. All those 10,000 startups world wide and only a couple gets bought out few IPO. The chances of a payout doing a VC funded startup is marginally slim despite what PG wrote in his articles nearly 10+ years ago.

Coupled with rising interest rates, it seems like the ride is coming to a slow crawl but this is just my gut feeling.

There's no better time to bootstrap than ever. Control your own company with no outside influences. You don't need billions of dollars. If you can double your day job salary with a SaaS then I think that's a huge success.

Here's to a happy & successful 2017 for the rest of us bootstrappers on HN.

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Post by shmerl »

sanguy wrote: post #272

This is really bad as Atlassian is like a prize winning show pony -- great marketing and webinars but once you get deeply into the product usage you find all sorts of problems and open issues. BitBucket has been waiting for 2FA for 5 years! Bambo was recently semi-retired going against a lot of users investments. And these are just recent. I would not expect wonderful things for Trello and thankfully it appears they…

No ability in their wiki to edit subsections individually is very annoying.

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Post by mitchty »

sanguy wrote: post #272

This is really bad as Atlassian is like a prize winning show pony -- great marketing and webinars but once you get deeply into the product usage you find all sorts of problems and open issues. BitBucket has been waiting for 2FA for 5 years! Bambo was recently semi-retired going against a lot of users investments. And these are just recent. I would not expect wonderful things for Trello and thankfully it appears they…

I love their response to open issues like: we'd like to be able to delete pull requests.

Response: what a silly notion, no

Or another one I found recently: we'd like to comment on code that isn't within 10 lines of a changed file. You know, because one line change in file a can impact stuff elsewhere. Or even in another project but the chances of that happening are more slim than a tachyon hitting an atom as it passes through earth.

Response: Good idea, here's stuff we did this year, and here's other stuff we do. (aka the non committal middle finger)

It sucks because atlassian products are 80% of the way there, but the final 20% polish never seems to arrive. And its been years.

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Post by omouse »

one of the largest players in the project management game acquires another tool and it's a-okay because there's loads of competition; but realistically, trello was one of the competitors to JIRA that actually could hold its own when being reviewed for use by non-developers. JIRA has been the default choice of many companies and while not a monopoly I'd say it's approaching that status.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by st3v3r »

chinhodado wrote: post #283
Gelob wrote: post #248

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thats about all Atlassian is good at. HipChat has become an abomination of a client across Windows and Mac. Every new release is about fixing functionality they broke with the previous release and even then it still isn't fixed. Logging in from multiple places has always been terrible. I'll be logged in on Mac and available but randomly get emails as if I'm offline. I'll be online on my phone and get e-mails. I wan't…

And don't even get me started on SourceTree. Just about every release since 1.5.2 is a disaster, to the point of almost non-usable right now.

Like what? SourceTree works just about perfectly for me.
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