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Tesla reports first quarterly profit in more than three years

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Re: Tesla reports first quarterly profit in more than three years

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Post by sctb »

exessf wrote: post #254
ams6110 wrote: post #96

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I don't have anything against Musk. I simply don't care much one way or the other because the things he's working on will never affect me. Electric cars are not something I'm interested in owning at the price Tesla is asking. Or even half what Tesla is asking. Utility electricity works fine for me, is a small fraction of my monthly budget, and is reliable. I.e. something I never really worry about. Payments for and m…

This is the typical narrow minded, short sighted views expressed by the below average citizen of the world. I definitely expect more from anyone on HN. This guy should be ashamed of himself.

This is a personal attack and isn't OK on HN. Please don't comment like this.

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Post by komali2 »

taneq wrote: post #130
komali2 wrote: post #102

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I thought Tesla doesn't sell through dealers? edit: I'm absolutely positive I'm missing the joke here

The fact that they 'don't sell through dealers' just means that they are the dealer. All of the usual sales guff still applies.

So that's what I mean - I thought there was no opportunity to haggle for a Tesla - they're a shop and the price is what it is. I thought?

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Post by will_hughes »

forgetsusername wrote: post #214
will_hughes wrote: post #178

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> no notice from BMW, the sales guy, or the press Tesla has done this for a long while. Newer larger battery pack options, newer interior and tech package options, and completely new performance and configuration options (insane, dual motor, and autopilot 1.0 all hit at once) While there wern't announcements ahead of time what was coming, there were often advance notice that there was an announcement coming, and even…

Canon sure doesn't tell anyone when their new models are coming out Big difference between buying a camera and buying a car.

Depends entirely on perspective - for a student just getting into photography, buying a DSLR from Canon is pretty evenful and a significant portion of their income/savings.

For a young professional, buying a $35k car is probably just as eventful and significant to their savings/expenditure.

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Post by briantmaurer »

mitchellh wrote: post #23

Really great news! But something that shouldn't be overlooked is the discounts they gave in Q3 to push deliveries up. First, those that know me know that I am a Tesla FANATIC. My girlfriend once challenged me to not talk about Tesla (motors, energy, something) for a 24 hour period. I dunno if I've ever done that honestly. I'm also an owner (no surprise given my fanaticism, lucky to be able to afford one). And I also…

"My girlfriend once challenged me to not talk about Tesla (motors, energy, something) for a 24 hour period. I dunno if I've ever done that honestly. I'm also an owner (no surprise given my fanaticism, lucky to be able to afford one). And I also own some TSLA."

I talk about Tesla a ton as well. My GF is similar, but with dogs. We made an agreement that whenever I talk about Tesla I have to replace 'Tesla' with 'dog'. She does the reverse.

Let me tell you, there is this new dog, it is so fast. And this dog has a low center of gravity which is great for handling. The craziest thing is that this dog can go from 0-60mph in just 2.8 seconds, it is ludicrous!

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Post by gubby »

greglindahl wrote: post #75
gubby wrote: post #45

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At least in the UK, such a term would have to be brought to your attention before the sale, very clearly, for it to be part of the contract. Writing that in the manual would have no effect.

Interestingly, in the UK paperback books have a little contract in the front saying you can't rebind them into hardbacks, while in the US such a contract is forbidden by the right of first sale. The moral is that these things are less obvious than one would think.

I doubt strongly that this would have any effect either, for the same reason. My legal knowledge is a little old fashioned and sporadic, but the classic authority on this used to be 'Olley v Marlborough Court Hotel'. Worth a read, if only for the way Denning used to write his judgements.

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Post by sova »

Reason077 wrote: post #269
eanzenberg wrote: post #201

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In the US gas is subsidized to hell. It's not even close compared to EV credits paid out.

The ZEV credits that Tesla receives, and sells on, aren't paid for by taxpayers - they're paid for by other automakers. Ultimately, it comes out of the profits of whichever automakers aren't producing enough low-emission cars.

Interesting. This is my first time learning about ZEV credits. That's actually pretty cool.

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Post by totalZero »

misterhtmlcss wrote: post #266
vsl wrote: post #216

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Yes, they keep doing it, and if you pay close attention to Tesla, you’re aware of it. You’re also aware of rumors of AP2 coming. If you don’t follow Tesla news, you’re in for a surprise. Regardless, I think it’s a fair critique: buyer’s remorse is a real thing with Tesla. It’s one thing to buy a $3000 computer from Apple and have it replaced with a much better one the next week, it’s another to buy a $100K car and ha…

Everyone discounts before they launch a new product. You don't need to follow Tesla to know a new product is eminent when you walk into a show room and they knock $10k of the price because you look pretty or walk nicely. Big deals and big discounts with serious need are always informative to the buyer. Plus people but cars when then want cars, some will always lament they could have waited a bit, but most I expect wi…

Car manufacturers generally telegraph their intentions for introducing new technologies in advance of actually unveiling the new models. People who buy a new 2016 Honda Accord generally can find out exactly what's going to be in the 2017 model just by googling around a little. Not the case with Tesla.

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Post by throwaway1892 »

pyvpx wrote: post #277
throwaway1892 wrote: post #243

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As an European, I sincerly hope that the Saudi regime collapse, for all the BS they are creating here and in the Middle-East. Still, for Syria, they are not the sole guilty party.

the US can't let that happen because the hegemony the dollar has over the world economy would be at a very high risk. Oil is traded in Dollars exclusively. This gives the Dollar some very powerful and unique powers. Saudi Arabia has a strong hold on the OPEC cartel.

If oil stops being so important to the world economy (which might happen, but not right now), this would reduce the risk to the world economy. And as oil loose its importance, the OPEC cartel will weaken (also OPEC do not contain all oil-producing countries).

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Post by _ea1k »

gniv wrote: post #146
_ea1k wrote: post #140

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It is going to take about 3 years for competition to reach where Tesla is right now with regards to range and charging networks.

Charging networks maybe, but range no. The Chevy Bolt that will start selling in a couple of months has 238 miles range. GM doesn't have the superchargers, but they can afford to price these cars with zero profit for a while, if they want to undercut Tesla.

My point was that the two are important together. A 240 mile range without a supercharger network is still a car that will not be particularly useful for a long trip (2+ hour drive).
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