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Re: Microsoft Acquires Xamarin

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Post by bunderbunder »

EvanPlaice wrote: post #220
davidw wrote: post #29

Miguel finally gets his job at Microsoft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_de_Icaza#Early_software... Congrats!

Kinda funny how things work out. Back when MS broadcasted OSX/ nix compatibility for Visual Studio I felt it necessary to comment that .NET development has been supported in OSX/ nix for over a decade. In short, Miguel De Icaza should be awarded a medal from MS for his heroic effort in developing the Mono platform and tooling; in spite of the constant threat of legal action from Microsoft for 'patent infringement' of…

He'd been pretty buddy-buddy with Microsoft for a while. Microsoft has owned patents on the underlying technology, but as far as I'm aware they never did anything to indicate that they might sue Ximian or Xamarin. As far as I can tell, the bulk of the concern about Mono stems from FUD-spreading by RMS.

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Post by mixedCase »

discordance wrote: post #279
phatfish wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Windows 10 privacy issues really do leave a bad taste, and I will be sticking to Windows 7/8.1 for as long as I can. There is a reason there are free upgrades to 10 being pushed so hard, and it's not because they are feeling nice. It seems like they are giving with one hand (open source to developers) and taking with the other (data from their unsuspecting users).

Do you also use only DuckDuckGo?

There are different expectations for the Internet and the software that runs your hardware.

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Post by tellarin »

junto wrote: post #226
jenscow wrote: post #169

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I thought that with Skype, then Nokia.

Nokia was a patent bundle firesale.

Interesting, as no Nokia patents were bought by Microsoft.

MS licensed their patents, but the current profitable Nokia kept them and has a unit dedicated to research and IP.

One can argue that the licensing was cheap, but cross-licensing agreements between companies is very common.

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Post by mixedCase »

carc wrote: post #273
jenscow wrote: post #169

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I thought that with Skype, then Nokia.

How is Microsoft extinguishing Skype? I've seen no such evidence personally

The Linux client no longer works and they filled the Windows client with ads and senseless bloat.

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Post by KirinDave »

maxxxxx wrote: post #264
jimmcslim wrote: post #255

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Yes, Silverlight has been abandoned. I would argue that Winforms is now a mature technology and requires little upkeep, but it is still a part of the stack. WPF development has slowed significantly, but still proceeds.

None of these are good technologies if you want to stay up-to-date. You could also write your site in IE6 compatible HTML which was quite mature but that seems a really bad idea.

That's not a reasonable comparison at all. Winforms is maintained. IE6 is explicitly deprecated.

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Post by danbolt »

big_paps wrote: post #87

This probably also means Unity3d will soon be able to use an updated version of Mono, because Microsoft wants to back them and doesn't force them to pay the full licence price.

I'd like the option of that! Unity and C# are a great pair, but I'd love to have the newer C# features rolling out.

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Post by hngiszmo »

shrewduser wrote: post #268
bad_user wrote: post #243

Given that Xamarin bought RoboVM last year and that the project went closed source and raised prices just after that, it's fair to assume that RoboVM is dead. Also, I'm personally not happy about this. I think people on HN should know better. Besides a couple of black swans being the exceptions that confirm the rule, acquisitions is how projects die. This is because acquisitions are either defensive or acquihires. An…

android youtube and maps were all acquisitions. i think it's confirmation bias you don't really think of all the many successful acquisitions only the bad ones stand out.

those were aquisitions by Google. Now a list of Microsoft:

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Post by kodablah »

knocte wrote: post #275
PhilWright wrote: post #270

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If they could convince all browsers to host some version of the CLR so you could have IL and so (C#/VB.NET/F#) as a viable alternative to JavaScript then I would agree.

No need. The future is WebAssembly. We just need C#/F# compilers that generate this new IL.

https://github.com/WebAssembly/ilwasm - Of course WebAssembly being still in the design stage, this is probably not very usable.

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Post by slg »

hngiszmo wrote: post #288
shrewduser wrote: post #268

Earlier quoted context omitted.

android youtube and maps were all acquisitions. i think it's confirmation bias you don't really think of all the many successful acquisitions only the bad ones stand out.

those were aquisitions by Google. Now a list of Microsoft:

There are some success stories even just limiting it to enterprise software. PowerPoint, Visio, and many products in the Dynamics family started out as acquisitions.
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