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Re: Desktop Neo – rethinking the desktop interface for productivity

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would be funny if this guy became the next Jonathan Ive so we could see this feedback in a different light 10 years from now.

I'm perhaps in a minority here, but Jon Ive isn't that great. I mean my iphone should have a notice/indicator light on the front. It wouldn't have been that hard to put an LED behind the glass so that if I leave my phone in the other room and I receive a message or something, then simply walking past my phone, the blinking light will catch my attention.

I had this feature in my old blackberry. It sounds like a good idea but it ends up making me tense every time I see the thing blink. I much rather like checking my notifications on my terms by turning on the screen.

Re: Desktop Neo – rethinking the desktop interface for productivity

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Great concept. I found the idea pretty interesting, but not for desktop maybe. I see a lot of good ideas that tablet companies could 'steal' to finally level app the productivity on tablets. Maybe, even if this concept is 'Apple oriented', could be a good game changer for android tablets.

Re: Desktop Neo – rethinking the desktop interface for productivity

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The lack of discoverability extends to OSX's keyboard shortcuts as well. I completely changed how I work after I discovered 'Command Tab' and 'Command ~'

It's amazing how buried some of these are. Nothing tops print screen for me - Cmd + shift + 3 for the whole screen or Cmd + shift + 4 for the selection option...

My absolute favorite is cmd + shift + 3 - release - space to take a shot of a single window. Maybe it's the release part between 3 buttons and pressing space, but that shortcut is always wired to use for me.

Re: Desktop Neo – rethinking the desktop interface for productivity

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I'm reminded of that run of "brilliant new design for " linkbait posts on tech sites a few years back, touting the incomparable benefits of some colorful, curvy piece of hardware over anything out there. The original source was always some design student's portfolio, and the "brilliant" design was never more than a colorful, curvy housing that didn't exist outside a rendering.

Yes, and? Is your criticism that we shouldn't discuss things which aren't in the physical world yet, or that we can't discuss unimplemented ideas?

No, my observation was that those stories (and discussions) were similar. And they are, down to the spectrum of reactions in people talking about this design piece as if it were a real product.

If you feel some need to be defensive about that, I'm sure that has a parallel in those discussions, too.

Re: Desktop Neo – rethinking the desktop interface for productivity

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I don't think tags are good enough to categorize data. Tags lack information what is being tagged. When it's clear what's tagged then they work. On twitter for instance it's the topic you're speaking about. What you really want is a property system like wikidata.

Think about a music program you want to write. You want to find all artists that music files on this computer have and when the user clicks on an artist find all the music that belongs to this artist.

Re: Desktop Neo – rethinking the desktop interface for productivity

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> By which I mean to say, using a Mac or an iPhone is at least 50% about using a Mac or an iPhone, and maybe 50% about doing whatever it is you are trying to do. Could you elaborate on this? I don't feel that way at all when using any modern OS/device, but maybe I just haven't thought about it in the same way.

Apple's focus on minimalist aesthetics have come at the cost of discoverability. Interactions are concealed by gestural input and incomprehensible icons without text labels. This issue is getting worse rather than better, e.g. force touch on the new Macbooks. Using Apple devices requires a great deal of memorisation. For power users this is a relatively minor burden, but it is a serious issue for inexperienced users,…

It drives me mad when people talk about touch interfaces as being "intuitive". Once you get past "touch icon to activate" and "touch and drag to scroll", gestures aren't intuitive, they're a secret handshake.

Re: Desktop Neo – rethinking the desktop interface for productivity

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Things I definitely don't like:

- swiping to switch between apps (with transition animation) is a no-go, cmd-tab is much better as it is right now - with taking two-finger-swipe for switching apps, you need something to go back and forward in your browser. 3-finger-swipe?

Not sure regarding tags instead of folders. Folders are simpler and easier to understand, so this needs a lot of details review and experience investigation.

Re: Desktop Neo – rethinking the desktop interface for productivity

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Touch and voice better than a mouse, sure. Tag with voice because its faster! proceeds to show 8 seconds to add two words = 15 WPM.

We shouldn't just be shooting from the hip and selling, we should be actually trying things out to see what works better. Obviously voice is not a good idea for everything.
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