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Mozilla Will Stop Developing and Selling Firefox OS Smartphones

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Re: Mozilla Will Stop Developing and Selling Firefox OS Smartphones

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Post by skc »

sremani wrote: post #52
frik wrote: post #34

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According to IDC the Worldwide Smartphone Market in 2015: Android ... 81.2% iOS ... 15.8% Windows Phone ... 2.2% Others ... 0.8% Worldwide Smartphone Forecast by OS for 2019: Android ... 82.6% iOS ... 14.1% Windows Phone ... 2.3% Others ... 0.9% Source: http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS40664915 @downvoter: it's a forcast by the well known IDC, also the current market share (2015) is interesting on its ow…

Will Windows Phone/ Windows Mobile be around 2019, as a die-hard WP user, I hope so. I just do not like those icon based OSes.

Bizarre that this opinion got downvoted, but I agree. It would be nice to have a thriving ecosystem of mobile OS's. I'm a WP user also and will be going Android for my next go round, maybe iOS after that. Would have been nice to try Firefox OS after that.

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Post by spyder »

mootothemax wrote: post #17
bpicolo wrote: post #12

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Outside of hacker news, I haven't heard of Firefox OS even once. They had no marketing to speak of, and you have to complete HARD on marketing to get into that market. "If you build it they will come" isn't a valid benchmark when there's already two options with massive market share that consumers are more or less happy with. (Since it's talked about in some replies, I live in the US).

Just as a counterpoint, I regularly saw Firefox os+phone ads on giant billboards in central Warsaw. If there was to be any market interest, I thought their targeting and marketing efforts like this were pretty spot-on.

Yep:

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22firefox+os%22+billboard+a...

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Post by spyder »

sremani wrote: post #52
frik wrote: post #34

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According to IDC the Worldwide Smartphone Market in 2015: Android ... 81.2% iOS ... 15.8% Windows Phone ... 2.2% Others ... 0.8% Worldwide Smartphone Forecast by OS for 2019: Android ... 82.6% iOS ... 14.1% Windows Phone ... 2.3% Others ... 0.9% Source: http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS40664915 @downvoter: it's a forcast by the well known IDC, also the current market share (2015) is interesting on its ow…

Will Windows Phone/ Windows Mobile be around 2019, as a die-hard WP user, I hope so. I just do not like those icon based OSes.

The UI can be changed on Android and there are a lot of launchers which has a windows phone style:

https://play.google.com/store/search?q=windows+launcher&c=ap...

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Post by spyder »

dragonwriter wrote: post #163
MawNicker wrote: post #77

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I suspect the Universal Windows Platform will have a significant impact. Especially the ability to dock your phone with an external display/keyboard/mouse. For a large portion of the market it displaces the need for a second computing device. Microsoft is much further along on this front than both Android and iOS.

> Especially the ability to dock your phone with an external display/keyboard/mouse. For a large portion of the market it displaces the need for a second computing device. Microsoft is much further along on this front than both Android and iOS. From a software perspective, Android has supported this forever. From a hardware perspective, there've been Android devices where accompanying docking solutions was heavily ma…

I think it's supposed to be cheaper to own one powerful device + screen and keyboard, than having to buy two separate powerful device.

Re: Mozilla Will Stop Developing and Selling Firefox OS Smartphones

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Post by StavrosK »

click170 wrote: post #247
StavrosK wrote: post #208

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That's not happening, unfortunately. Sometimes you need someone with weight to throw around, or with technical knowledge, or both.

I agree sometimes it takes someone with weight to throw around, but are you saying that person needs to be a Mozilla employee? Because I wouldn't agree with that.

No, it needs to be Mozilla itself.

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Post by kefka »

coldtea wrote: post #248
zmmmmm wrote: post #197

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The clearest and simplest thing they could do is implement ad blocking in an ethical manner. All the other players have commercial agendas either for or against advertising. Mozilla is really the only player that can come to the table with clean hands and implement a solution that is fair to all sides.

Why would the user care about "ethical" manner (especially since it still allows ads) over crude, remove all ads, manner?

I care.

I will always use the "remove all ads" answer, no matter what.

I'm still on metered bandwidth. And when I'm not at work, ads are another vector for malware.

I'll pass.

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Post by loudmax »

ianlevesque wrote: post #130
scrollaway wrote: post #78

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They're trying something with Firefox Hello. Unfortunately, short of Google open sourcing Hangouts and making it a truly open protocol, I don't see a change happening in the IM space any time soon =/

I think that's a little overly pessimistic. Look how quickly Slack went from non-existent to huge in the messaging space.

Isn't Slack just another proprietary platform? They may leverage some open protocols, but I don't see how Slack decentralizes messaging. Am I missing something?

Re: Mozilla Will Stop Developing and Selling Firefox OS Smartphones

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Post by pjmlp »

nitrogen wrote: post #272
nivla wrote: post #167

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>Microsoft may be somewhat further along on this front, but I don't think it's as much as you think - the apps that can run in this way are not full windows applications. But that is going to soon change as MS is working with Intel to launch Intel powered phones (x86). [1] Regardless of whether Windows phone succeeds or not, I believe the path they are taking will eventually be where all the OSes will end up. The say…

I like the docking concept, but you really can't trust input devices you don't own.

Same applies to FxOS, not the whole stack was open.

Plus people keep forgetting that there aren't any open options for the radio OS.

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