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> Switzerland also takes refugees But only those with more than 10 Million $ in their pockets. But now seriously, Switzerland is NOT taking any noticeable number of refugees. In the current political situation a suggestion to take refuges would be suicide for every politican.
Switzerland has been taking far more per-capita than other European nations. Understandably they recently tightened.
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#282Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you don't know what a problematic level of immigration looks like then you have no idea if you're looking directly at it or not. You're telling me you haven't seen any chickens lately, I'm asking what you think a chicken looks like, and you're saying you don't see any right now. A 10% ESL student population doesn't solve itself. That's like a child thinking that their refrigerator magically fills itself when it ge…
So maybe California has more immigrants than it can handle. I can't see it from New Hampshire. Anyway there are several times more people in prison now than in the 80's even though the crime rate has dropped, so I don't think violent criminals make up the majority of the prison population. As of 2006, 49.3% of state prisoners, or 656,000 individuals, were incarcerated for non-violent crimes. By 2010, drug offenders i…
Only 10% of California's prisoners have never been convicted of a violent crime. I doubt they all need to be locked up but I'm not seeing those prisons as being filled with peaceful drug dealers like the rumor has it.
I would guess in New Hampshire there isn't much of an immigrant population. I just looked it up and it's about 93% white there. My state's about 2/3's white, I live in a part of town where I don't walk around after dark because I might get jumped for being white which does affect my perspective. I have neighbors who immigrated from Mexico decades ago and still don't even speak basic english. I'm not saying my state should become all white or anything like that, but maybe we've reached a good mix and we could deal with the problems our hispanic and black communities already have because that's a challenge as it is. We're struggling to get them to stop killing each other, make it through high school and to read at a basic level. If we can't do that I don't know why we think we can take on even more people.
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Could you also tell what you did in Switzerland and what you do now in this "developing" country? Power-distance or empathy to foreigners is no different to Germany, at least in Zurich. Switzerland can't be that bad as a place for software engineers: 1) Google placed the biggest software engineering office outside the US into Zurich. 2) The ETH is the only place except for Oxford and Cambridge that can compete with t…
We do Bitcoin and Blockchain development [1]. Full stack JS and Go. Founded the company a year ago, we're now 17 full time employees, fully bootstrapped. Equity and cash flow with several US based startups. Not to mention that we're now finishing projects international teams located in Switzerland weren't able to pull off. As a side note, half of the team we replaced in Switzerland were from the ETH and Lausanne. Our…
I have a CS degree from a top-CS school in Europe. I would also not get jobs in the US, because no one knows anything but Oxford overseas.
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#284Sincerely. I'm European, I'm from Euro zone. I walk in the streets in my country's capital at night and a see dozens of homeless hungry people just by walking a couple of Km. I just can't put my head around on why we should help the refugees before we help our own people. It just doesn't make any sense to me. We are giving millions to find houses for these refugees/migrants but we let our own live and die on the stre…
The outcome of this will be from our children and grandchildren. Most European children will not be able to afford housing as good as their parents and will not have the job stability their parents enjoyed. Their parents pensions will be larger than their wages. Eventually a tipping point will be reached. History tells us what will follow.
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We (Europeans) never bothered about cultural and religious closeness when we were occupying, colonizing and sucking goods from them, did we?
You know, at least Europeans are consistent in their moral grandstanding. For sure mass immigration from illiberal non-Western societies will cause damage to the cultural fabric of Europe and cause strain on the welfare systems, but at least you consistently apply your moral standards to yourself and not just America and Israel when it's convenient. That is admirable.
That's not necessarily truth. In fact, most of immigrants are escaping from those illiberal societies. They want to have an European lifestyle. Become musicians, artists, engineers, etc... These kind of fresh workforce, who know what is it to live in poverty are actually much better at work and contribute more to the welfare system.
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Fair enough, they have strong religious beliefs. So do lots of people. Why does that mean Muslims shouldn't be allowed into a given country? Why should Islam be singled out? Also, apparently from the same survey: "Furthermore, the willingness of Turkish migrants and their descendents to integrate into German society remains high and is climbing. Whereas 70 percent said in 2010 that they want to "absolutely and withou…
Seriously, the complete hypocrisy of your comment is too big to actually be true. So, we are a bunch of xenophobes because we are concerned about people that clearly have social norms that are against our most basic principles of freedom are entering our countries. But when 62% of Muslims already living in Germany say they want to live only next to other Muslims then, you don't see a problem there and claim they are…
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Take off the hate goggles and maybe you'll see that your sarcasm is actually true: "these are that Muslims that in their great majority are supposed to be already westernised" == "86.4% of Muslims feel they belong in Britain, slightly more than the 85.9% of Christians" 86.4% sounds like a "great majority" (whatever that means), to me.
Oh yes, they are westernised into 36% of them (the young ones, the ones that mostly were already born here) thinking that whoever leaves the religion of Islam should be killed. Geez, I seriously wonder what is your concept of NOT westernised? 50%, 70%, 100% of them believing in murder in the name of their religion or what? Please let us know if you actually have a number or if anything fits into your version of "west…
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Ooo, there's a hefty underlying assumption in your post. I have previously taken people off the street, three times. I do not currently have anyone living in my home because I have moved back to my disabled Mums which is a 3 bedroom house already with 5 people living there. Why am I living at my Mums? I give 100% of my time to helping others and i'm in the process of starting a social enterprise to develop technology…
slow clap.
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Thankyou. That's my point. Who cares? We can still help them out of kindness and unconditionally, not expecting anything back.
I don't want to pay extra taxes to help foreigners, I'll gladly donate money to charities. But the second my country started demanding I pay taxes to help refugees, all my income moved over to HK. And no, I don't have a problem with refugees, I'm glad to help them. I have a problem with the state _forcing_ me to help them.
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Oh yes, they are westernised into 36% of them (the young ones, the ones that mostly were already born here) thinking that whoever leaves the religion of Islam should be killed. Geez, I seriously wonder what is your concept of NOT westernised? 50%, 70%, 100% of them believing in murder in the name of their religion or what? Please let us know if you actually have a number or if anything fits into your version of "west…
rmxt I don't think there's much point debating with this guy. He's not interested in learning and sharing his understanding. Only interested in proving he's right and I'm not even sure he knows what he's trying to prove right anymore. He's finding anything he can to backup his argument, not sharing sources that he used to formulate his opinions.
Here they are again in case your blindness allows you to see the facts against your incoherent opinions:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_United_Kingdom#Sh...
http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article108659406/Tuer...
http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religi...