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Re: Nokia acquired by Microsoft

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Post by alextingle »

BuckRogers wrote: post #201
macspoofing wrote: post #100

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>There are a lot of people who would have picked up the attractive, well built, well engineered Nokia devices if they had the platform of Android. Yeah maybe. There is no guarantee that the outcome would have been more favorable than being bought out by Microsoft. >Apple obviously is very much in a battle with Android ... Apple already lost to Android. Last count, Android had 80% of the market. There is zero chance o…

> Apple already lost to Android. That's not true. Apple's mobile devices are more profitable than any single line of Android devices. Also, sales of the iPad vs any other line of Android tablets, ie. Samsung's are not even close. Your comparison is no different than comparing Windows Server vs Linux servers. Yes, it might have hurt the market for WinServer a little bit (and Apple's iOS devices), but it's not like any…

> but it's not like anyone is making a killing off of all those Linux/Android powered devices out there.

Except the users. Users win big time when there's an effective open source option for them to choose.

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Post by regularfry »

grey-area wrote: post #247
corresation wrote: post #84

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There is no money in being an Android vendor except if you're Samsung and are totally vertically integrated. There are a lot of people who would have picked up the attractive, well built, well engineered Nokia devices if they had the platform of Android. The core problem with the "no money in Android" argument is that you can't choose not to compete with Android if you're in the smartphone game, which is pretty obvio…

about a company that went from hero to zero largely at the hands of Android (RIM being another example). I think iOS had a lot more to do with Nokia's decline than Android. iOS came first and dominated the high end of mobile phones for years, displacing Nokia in that niche, and then Android also undermined them, but it was hardly all down to Android. Nokia used to sell a lot of high end phones, which they made money…

I think Nokia had more to do with Nokia's decline than iOS or Android. They had the hardware and software to do what Apple and Palm did at least a full generation before iPhone 1.

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Post by venomsnake »

300bps wrote: post #71
kbaker wrote: post #61

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Idk, sounds like the year of Linux on the desktop is closer than it has ever been. :) But you should really look at Chromebooks/ChromeOS for one glimpse of what a consumer-friendly, non-MS system would really look like. Right now it is the #1 selling laptop on Amazon, and reviews are pretty positive. If I was a shareholder in MSFT, I would seriously be worried for the future of the whole Windows platform, mobile and…

I started using Slackware Linux in 1997. If I had a nickel for everytime someone declared the Linux desktop is imminent since then I'd have more money than Bill Gates.

Next year is always the year of the Linux desktop.

But I begin seeing worries in people where MS is pushing the OS (mostly privacy concerns) and is seems running windows in a hypervisor with VGA card passed trough is becoming more and more popular.

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Post by Samuel_Michon »

valleyer wrote: post #228
gbog wrote: post #222

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No, please, we have such hard time moving MS out of the hot field, don't bring them back! Remember when everyone feared MS? I mean, that was really terriying time for our industry. How forgetful is it to "wish" MS could gain a third of the phone OS market shared... Apple and Google conjugated efforts kept the wolf outside and you want to open the gates? However, I agree that a domineering Android/Google or Android/Sa…

Huh? Microsoft was terrifying because they dominated the PC market. This comment proposes their having 33% of the smartphone market. How is that "terrifying"?

Microsoft has a long history of not playing fair. If it were to have 33% of the market, it isn’t unthinkable that it will try all possible dirty tricks in the book to gain the upper hand. Right now, Windows Phone’s market share is negligible, Microsoft has zero leverage so it has to play by the book.

Re: Nokia acquired by Microsoft

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Post by sirkneeland »

As a Nokia employee, I can't yet comment on whether this is ultimately good or bad for us and what our dreams were.

I can say that it is a very emotional time for us Nokia employees, and I can only imagine it is even more so for those of us who are also Finns.

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Post by notimetorelax »

nl wrote: post #12

~$7 Billion for the device & services business and Nokia's patents. Seems like a good price now, but one you wouldn't have ever predicted before 2007 & the launch of the iPhone. In 2003 Nokia was worth $245 billion[1] [1] http://techcrunch.com/2010/06/22/the-sad-tale-of-nokias-sink...

Please see this comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6318882 they are not buying patents.

Re: Nokia acquired by Microsoft

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Post by JoachimS »

This is a great move - for Nokia. Now Nokia has a huge pile of money to take on Huawei, Ericsson and Cisco etc in the mobile network field. Remember, Nokia bought out Siemens from NSN as recent as July this year:

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2013-06-30/nokia-said-to-ag...

With the money from the MS deal, the headache of a failing mobile phone business while retaining the patents and maps I think Nokia will be in a much better position witch a clearer focus.

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