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Re: Get your Windows license refund

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Post by Brendinooo »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #166
Brendinooo wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't run this kind of skin unironically but I do think that desktop GUIs used to be a lot more intuitive in some ways. They were still educating PC users on how to use PCs and so there was less of a temptation to hide features and smooth things out for the sake of pure aesthetics. (The slide-to-unlock on the original iPhone OS comes to mind as an analogy on the phone: babies could figure it out, but by iOS 7 they…

>I don't run this kind of skin unironically … hang on, I’m still parsing this.

bwahaha. I mean to say, I don't run it.

Re: Get your Windows license refund

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Post by IshKebab »

jonathanberger wrote: post #174

> Consumers should have the right to decline pre-installed software As a consumer I should also have the right to free ice cream and a pony ride. Many of us have tried to start or run businesses small or large. Does it make any sense for a government to start telling us what software the business should use or not use? Consumers already have the right to decline pre-installed software: don't buy the laptop. There, yo…

This is so incredibly naive. You're basically saying no consumer laws should exist at all. Any commercial activity is fine no matter how underhanded.

Re: Get your Windows license refund

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Post by Zambyte »

neallindsay wrote: post #185

I also raised an eyebrow at "the vast majority of laptops are only sold with a specific proprietary operating system: Microsoft Windows", but after looking at some estimates it seems legit. Probably only about 1 in 10 laptops is a Mac. Software developers really just live in a different world than normal people. It got me thinking though: what is a laptop? People probably count Chromebooks, and that seems fair. Is a…

I can't think of any software engineers I personally know who use Mac. In my industry, pretty much anyone who uses Mac is in a managerial position.

Re: Get your Windows license refund

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Post by buran77 »

leni536 wrote: post #246
close04 wrote: post #218

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> Normaly if you build a computer, there will not be any OS on a random SSD you buy for it. That's why so many people go with pre-built and don't even care about wiping and reinstalling the OS to get rid of the bloat. They want a fully functioning product from the moment they power it on so having the OS is a big deal.

It's OK as an option, even as a default, Just give me a dropdown with "blank" as an option too.

Even without Microsoft's interference, it would still complicate logistics. Two OS options means double the number of SKUs. Some manufacturers offer this option but I wouldn't hold my breath that retailers want to bother.

Re: Get your Windows license refund

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Post by type0 »

karlgkk wrote: post #250
type0 wrote: post #215

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And how would I make calls with it?

They still make dumb phones. And you can get a voip client on Linux.

Many so called dumb phones are just Android phones with buttons, real dumb low powered devices are being phased out because you don't get support for VoLTE Emergency

Re: Get your Windows license refund

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Post by kulahan »

neallindsay wrote: post #185

I also raised an eyebrow at "the vast majority of laptops are only sold with a specific proprietary operating system: Microsoft Windows", but after looking at some estimates it seems legit. Probably only about 1 in 10 laptops is a Mac. Software developers really just live in a different world than normal people. It got me thinking though: what is a laptop? People probably count Chromebooks, and that seems fair. Is a…

Try finding a PC manufacturer that lets you choose Linux instead of Windows when customizing your PC. I remember one or two companies offering it, and even giving a discount for it (~$100?), but the rest simply default to Windows.

Others let you choose Linux, but you have to pay to remove Windows. They can't install their bloatware (or are unwilling to, anyways), so you have to pay the unsubsidized price.

Re: Get your Windows license refund

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Post by BeetleB »

Telaneo wrote: post #267
BeetleB wrote: post #234

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I'm pretty sure the BASIC that launched from my ROM was not from Microsoft...

It was if it was an IBM machine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_BASIC

Yes, but most people bought IBM Compatibles, not IBM. I don't think I know anyone who bought an actual IBM PC.

Re: Get your Windows license refund

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Post by redeeman »

dooglius wrote: post #140
redeeman wrote: post #81

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i think its reasonable that people who sell computer monitors also demand you purchase a computer or other output device from them. Why do you feel differently here? after all, a computer monitor needs a computer or other output device to work, no?

In fact, this is what happens in the case of laptop displays

except when you for example buy a spare part, which I know some people hate having the ability to do, but some of us actually appreciate

Re: Get your Windows license refund

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Post by karlgkk »

lukan wrote: post #251
karlgkk wrote: post #249

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Congratulations on missing the point entirely. You don’t NEED a smartphone for daily life. It sure is convenient though!

And who are you to tell, me what I need?

You went from want to need. Maybe you should self inspect about want versus need.
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