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Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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Why did it take so long?

No clue. I once gave Firefox a 4 star review on the App Store saying my only qualm was that there was no adblocker, despite other browsers having them (I gave examples of Edge & Brave). They replied within a day or two stating it was a "limitation of the web engine" and there was nothing they could do until Apple changed their policy. Then, they deleted my bad review. Really changed the way I looked at Mozilla.

Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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It is not, because a random user is not able to use it. A thing only affects a monopoly when it is a choice a consumer can make. You could say that iphone is an anti-monopoly option vs android, but not that Safari is an anti-monopoly option vs Chrome. Then on top of that, even for users that do happen to "live in Canada"(1) already, Safari isn't a choice, it's the only allowed option, and full octane firefox is also…

This user choice argument isn’t what makes safari monopolist. It’s that for some countries iOS has majority share these days, and safari is pushed on users through it. That’s why I was kinda trying to say it is anti-monopoly monopoly. If Apple supported read+execute pages for third party applications, it might give users more choice but it would also have the consequence of ushering in the way for total browser domin…

That is a not entirely bs angle.

Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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Yes, in practice I have noticed no difference between uBO and uBOL. The only thing I've seen it not block are Twtich ads which the normal uBO doesn't block anyway. There are probably additional things behind the scenes just due to the limitations of uBOL but you again in practice don't see it.

Twitch ads are a nuisance. If you have a VPN switching to Romania or other eastern european countries can work.

I agree. I only really watch one or two streamers though both who I’m subscribed to so whatever. It is painful if I check into a random stream though lol

Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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more specifically, it was for donating to homophobic political groups trying to pass Prop 8 which made gay marriage illegal in California [0] the measure passed by 5% [1] - people were fairly incensed that Mozilla Foundation money (paid to him via his salary) might go to future donations of the same kind I'm sure people will say things about 'well of course he's legally free to do as he wants with this money' but the…

And yet the democratic process was subverted by the measure being overruled. Moot point.

would love to live in a society where past harms and mistakes could simply be forgotten because the law has moved forward. I imagine a lot of low-level drug possession charges would be forgiven under that ethical conceit

but since we're a long ways from that reality, the least we can do is to look for accountability from influential people with the same strictness we have for the poorest and least powerful

Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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post #76

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It’s not the part you see, its what they see to implement the features you see.

True, but I don't see how that answers the original question of "why does Firefox not support extensions on iOS?". Clearly extensions can run on WebKit. I assume it has much more to do with Apple restrictions rather than with the fact addons are built for Gecko.

Its not as simple as extensions running on webkit. Webkit is just a component. Extensions are basically apps. Apple goes through a lot of trouble to make it so you cant build an app platform inside your own app. Not saying impossible. But non trivial. Its not as simple as “webkit runs extensions”

Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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i only wish updates weren't tied to OS version

I agree with this, but on macos they are not entirely tired. On iOS because of the way iOS gets performance (as far as I understand it to be the case) through the iOS shared cache, there really isn't a way to totally decouple safari from iOS. I guess you could allow an alternate newer safari, but the one that comes with the OS would have to be linked into the blob.

If they can do it on the desktop, Apple can do it on mobile as well.

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post #259

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How do you do this? Straight up don’t know what the “content blocker subsystem” is ha

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-focus-ios#w_use...

Ah duh I should’ve checked for that documentation. Thanks

Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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I agree with this, but on macos they are not entirely tired. On iOS because of the way iOS gets performance (as far as I understand it to be the case) through the iOS shared cache, there really isn't a way to totally decouple safari from iOS. I guess you could allow an alternate newer safari, but the one that comes with the OS would have to be linked into the blob.

If they can do it on the desktop, Apple can do it on mobile as well.

No, the two are not architected the same. I believe it’s shipped as a dylib on macOS.

Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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This user choice argument isn’t what makes safari monopolist. It’s that for some countries iOS has majority share these days, and safari is pushed on users through it. That’s why I was kinda trying to say it is anti-monopoly monopoly. If Apple supported read+execute pages for third party applications, it might give users more choice but it would also have the consequence of ushering in the way for total browser domin…

That is a not entirely bs angle.

I’m weighing two bad outcomes here. I think it’s a lot worse if there’s only one browser for the entire web than it is for there to be one browser for one singular platform.
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