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Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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And it also ads on it. Really Microsoft? Do you really need all the ads revenue from the weather app? What’s next? Ads on the start menu?

> What’s next? Ads on the start menu? They already exist: https://www.howtogeek.com/windows-11-start-menu-ads-how-to-t...

Patent was being sarcastic. Everybody heard about (or had the displeasure of seeing) those ads.

Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

#273
What's the status on automatic debloating (non interactive) scripts for Windows these days? With vibe coding I'd expect hundreds of those to exist by now. Something everyone would run after a clean install, to revert, disable or uninstall all the stupid defaults and enshitifications Microsoft added in the past decades.

Anyone can recommend one of those?

Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

#274

...you know, I keep reading all this stuff about memory prices, and it does suck, but memory is still much cheaper per gigabyte than it was ~15 years ago. Which matters because the things most consumers are doing on their computers haven't changed in the past 15 years. We browse the web, edit photos, message friends, and so on. AI generally runs on remote servers anyway. For years, everyone kept saying it was fine th…

15 years ago 4GB was comfortable and 8GB was abundant. Today 8GB is bare minimum.

The sad thing is that usability of computers has not improved. More RAM has bought us absolutely nothing when it comes to UI/UX.

Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

#275

My gaming PC that I built in January 2006 that IIRC I used to simultaneously run Battlefield 2, Trillian, Xfire, Thunderbird, and Winamp with a 1680x1050 monitor had 1 GB of total system RAM.

Trillian, good old days. Still remember my icq number

Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

#276

Easy workaround for this: 1. Install uBlock Origin in Edge. 2. Start Edge, browse to MSN Weather. 3. Click the "Add an Application" button in the address bar to get a Start Menu icon for the page. 4. Delete the in-box Weather app icon. Now you get the same Weather app in about 130MB of RAM, with no ads. It's not as nice as a native app, of course, but it's 1000% better than the useless ads and MSN feed that you can't…

> According to Windows Latest, the high memory consumption is due to the fact that Weather is not a fully native Windows application. Instead, it is essentially an MSN Weather web app built on Microsoft's WebView2 framework. I wonder how this approach is having such an high reduction in memory usage compared to what’s stated in the article. I would assume both use the exact same WebView here. The only explanation her…

WebView2 has some memory optimizations across several WebView2 instances, so it should save memory once you have multiple WebView2 apps running.

Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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> By comparison, Apple's native Weather app on macOS reportedly uses less than 250 MB of RAM That's also bloated, couldn't they find a better comparison to illustrate the egregious waste?

Thank you. And it is a shame I had to scroll down this far in the comments for someone to point out the obvious. Even a weather app that uses "only" 250MB of RAM should never have been delivered by a semi professional software shop - 250MB is enough to store whatever they can display in full screen on a 5k display as a bitmap - 5 times.

Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

#278
I don't want to "akshually" this, but on a stock[1] up-to-date Windows 11 x64 25H2 (aka: my desktop) Weather takes up around ~670MB of RAM at launch, not 1GB. While writing this comment it dropped to 450MB. All in all much lower than 1GB.

1: i.e.: not "debloated" or running a bunch of random customizer scripts.

Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Your designers want Sometimes, you need to tell the designers NO. Moving background images don't help people figure out what the weather is going to be.

Many people enjoy a tasteful weather app. Granted a “minimal” UX toggle would be easy to add to reduce memory for those who cared.

I think the issue is with the recent definition creep of “tasteful.” Seems you might have the same mindset if you consider “minimal” to be the other option.

Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

#280
In the era of coding with frontier LLMs, it should take Microsoft 20 junior engineers, a couple seniors, a token budget and a month or two to fix most of this shit by building lean, native apps. Given that they can obviously spare this kind of resourcing, I truly wonder why they won't. Not that I give a crap - removed the last windows machine from my home ages ago at this point.
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