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Gemini Robotics 2 brings whole body intelligence to robots

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Post by qurren »

supern0va wrote: post #266
qurren wrote: post #40

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I'm bearish that they'll be economically viable in the house for a very long time. For businesses the bar for adoption is very low: If the thing can work repetitive jobs for 24 hours a day and replace 3 shifts, the purchase bar is nominally anything less than 3 x human salary if your budgeting horizon is 1 year. That's a high number, and probably fairly easy to achieve. For homes, it's a very different bar. You'd hav…

> For homes, it's a very different bar. You'd have a hard time convincing most American families to purchase anything with a >$1000 price tag. There are plenty of white collar employees in cities paying $500+/month for someone to come clean their home. As one of those people, I could easily see paying low five figures for something like this if it actually worked well and could replace most household labor.

Most consumers don't think like that. Businesses do.

Part of the reason is upfront commitment is scary and risky for personal money, but not scary for a business.

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Post by soperj »

pertymcpert wrote: post #155
soperj wrote: post #101

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> ballpark 5k/year How big is your house? When we had a cleaning lady it was $70 a go. Under $2000 for every second week.

I have a 1300 sqft house, 3b2b. Costs me around $200 for a cleaning.

Ours was a 1300 3b1b. It was $35 an hour, they finished everything in under 2 hours. I'm guessing(hoping!) they have to be there for more than 2 hours for $200?

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Post by soperj »

neutronicus wrote: post #192
soperj wrote: post #101

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> ballpark 5k/year How big is your house? When we had a cleaning lady it was $70 a go. Under $2000 for every second week.

2500 finished square feet in a MCOL east coast metro (Baltimore). Wondering if you're closer to the southern border or something.

Southern border of Canada yeah.

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Post by esafak »

xgulfie wrote: post #64
prima-facie wrote: post #41

A lot of these household tasks could be automated without the need for humanoid robots. Roombas can clean your floor, automated rubbish disposal can be integrated into houses and flats, grocery delivery and storage could be done via an automated intake, cataloguing, and storage system. Humanoids are just creepy and you can't really trust them. Could you sleep easily knowing that you have one in your house? What if yo…

> Humanoids are just creepy and you can't really trust them. Ultimately I shouldn't have to trust my robots. If my roomba or my dishwasher go haywire they won't pinch my finger off. They physically can't listen to me or spy on me. These are good robots.

https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/12/19/1065306/roomba-i...

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Post by jader201 »

drusepth wrote: post #238
aantix wrote: post #199

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Most people finance vehicles that cost much more than 20K. I'd gladly pay or finance a robot that could have dishes clean, laundry folded, and carpets vacuumed by the time our family got home.

I don't think a cleaning robot and a vehicle are in the same category, as vehicles are more a necessity (at the very least to get to and from your jobs, to buy groceries, etc) and a cleaning robot is squarely a luxury.

Vehicles, when first invented, were 100% a luxury, not a necessity.

They only became a “necessity” once they went mainstream and the world started evolving with vehicles becoming a part of everyday life.

I can certainly see the same thing happening with residential robotics.

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Post by lanthissa »

qurren wrote: post #40
pwython wrote: post #16

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For house keeping tasks the robotics companies love showing off... it honestly doesn't matter if it takes a robot longer than a human to clean your house. As long as it gets done before you get home from work, no big deal.

I'm bearish that they'll be economically viable in the house for a very long time. For businesses the bar for adoption is very low: If the thing can work repetitive jobs for 24 hours a day and replace 3 shifts, the purchase bar is nominally anything less than 3 x human salary if your budgeting horizon is 1 year. That's a high number, and probably fairly easy to achieve. For homes, it's a very different bar. You'd hav…

if all it could do was operate a lawn mower and a shovel, the annual value to a homeowner in the north east is ~1-2k depending on lawn size assuming they value their free time at the same amount as their hourly wage.

what you have to keep in mind is homeowners salary is way above avg salary so anything you can do to effect them has a much larger impact than it would seem at first.

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Post by esafak »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #31
I-M-S wrote: post #19

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I would caution against enthusiasm. Anyone opposing those who end up controlling these robots won't be alive for long.

These robots can't do combat, not effectively anyway, but that's already jumping three stages ahead, because first off, why would they?

Because every country wants cheap, expendable, tireless soldiers.

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Post by Flere-Imsaho »

No mention of whether the robot's models run locally or in the cloud. Ie. Does it require an internet connection?

For a robot to be in my house it would have to run locally, there's no way I'm allowing one that runs in the cloud to operate my washing machine for example.

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