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Pledging another $400k to the Zig software foundation

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Re: Pledging another $400k to the Zig software foundation

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yes, I have to apply in advance if I want to withdraw large amounts of cash and it has to be approved.

> I have to apply in advance Banks try to avoid holding excessive amounts of cash in suburban branches because it makes them attractive armed robbery targets. If you have a need for a large amount of cash, you can let them know (my bank says 24-48 hours in advance), go to multiple branches, or to a large city branch. Inconvenient, perhaps, though temporary. If it's for a business or a recurring need your bank is gene…

Last time I needed a couple thousand in cash, I had to fill out a paper form stating what I will do with the money. One time I told them "I will party in my home country" and they denied

Re: Pledging another $400k to the Zig software foundation

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2+2=4 is only a formal truth up to the axioms of arithmetic and how we denote numbers. The statement is not statement with regards to objective reality.

You're being pendantic. Choose whatever symbol you want for "2" and "4". The point is that if you have symbol apples and someone gives you symbol more, than you have an agreed-upon number in total.

It's not being pedantic. With different assumptions you can make a system where 2 + 2 = 0 and it turns out to be extremely useful. You can also build a system where 2 + 2 = 22 like the other commenter lampoons and the free monoid that corresponds to is again useful.

If we had a radically different perspective (like Borges' Funes the memorious), you can imagine how adding wholly distinct objects might seem ridiculous and derive some other wacky system of arithmetic instead.

Of course, you could alternatively derive it from set theory, but you might also end up with something fundamentally different than what the grandparent intended like presburger or skolem arithmetic.

Re: Pledging another $400k to the Zig software foundation

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Capitalism also marked the end of humanity and is the single greatest force driving human extinction. But yall money driven brains cant comprehend that :)

And how is it driving human extinction? It’s lifted humans out of endless poverty and bringing a coming age of abundance, what world are you living in?

It's causing unhindered exploitation of resources and corruption. We are going to burn the very last tree on earth for chump change.

Re: Pledging another $400k to the Zig software foundation

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>Everyone dies in communism. Everyone dies in capitalism as well though. Everyone dies generally at some point in life. Reality is, currently most of us are wage slaves and I'd love to work a little less and still be able to afford life. An alternative to capitalism would be socialism and killing corrupt people off.

> killing corrupt people off Cool cool that doesn’t sound tyrannical at all

I never claimed I was against tyranny. Tyranny thats emitted as rightful punishment from the masses is fine in my opinion. Single people having power emitting tyranny is a whole different topic. Its about outweighed consensus for me.

Re: Pledging another $400k to the Zig software foundation

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post #208

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2+2=4 is only a formal truth up to the axioms of arithmetic and how we denote numbers. The statement is not statement with regards to objective reality.

You're being pendantic. Choose whatever symbol you want for "2" and "4". The point is that if you have symbol apples and someone gives you symbol more, than you have an agreed-upon number in total.

Agreed-upon, as in subjective.

Re: Pledging another $400k to the Zig software foundation

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> “sincerity in action, character, and utterance” is different than “the body of real things, events, and facts” So? I didn't refer to truth in the former sense. I said there are several kinds of meanings of the term "truth", and that the one that's about mere facts about things that can be measured objectively (the stricter version of your second definition) is the least interesting one. The truths of the "We hold t…

> So By acknowledging that nobody considers these objective truths, there’s nothing interesting to say on the topic. You were playing around with the linguistic ambiguity for whatever reason using a different definition than was used by “There is only a single source of truth and that is objective reality.” and I called you out on it. Thus the subject dies.

>By acknowledging that nobody considers these objective truths, there’s nothing interesting to say on the topic

On the contrary, that's where most interesting things to say happen in the real social world. From relationships all the way to wars.

>You were playing around with the linguistic ambiguity for whatever reason using a different definition than was used by “There is only a single source of truth and that is objective reality.” and I called you out on it.

Nope, you were limited by the one definition you had in mind, unable to understand that real world, real people, don't constraint themselves to it, and argue regarding the truth or falsehood in all kinds of things that are not bound to "objective reality".

In other words, you pedantically erased most of human life and discource on the truth (not to mention the incovenient other philosophical and dictionary definitions of it) with "well, ahchtually".

Re: Pledging another $400k to the Zig software foundation

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You're being pendantic. Choose whatever symbol you want for "2" and "4". The point is that if you have symbol apples and someone gives you symbol more, than you have an agreed-upon number in total.

It's not being pedantic. With different assumptions you can make a system where 2 + 2 = 0 and it turns out to be extremely useful. You can also build a system where 2 + 2 = 22 like the other commenter lampoons and the free monoid that corresponds to is again useful. If we had a radically different perspective (like Borges' Funes the memorious), you can imagine how adding wholly distinct objects might seem ridiculous…

But “2+2=4”, in the specific formal system that is common arithmetic, is true.

Furthermore, you can translate “2+2=4” to any other formal system (your examples, “2+2=10 (base 4)”, “2+2=1 (mod 3)”, etc.), and it’s still true.

“2+2=4” is a universal truth, just expressible in different ways.

Re: Pledging another $400k to the Zig software foundation

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In a working society, nobody should be able to throw away life changing money. Being rich is poisonous to society. Most of us suffer due to people hoarding money and humanity needs to overcome the concept of money generally.

Hoarding money is not economically prudent in a system designed with mild inflation. Money loses value sitting still, to grow wealth there has to be some action with a positive return. The trouble will billionaires is the oligopolizing of power and influence, not that they're sitting on gold that could otherwise be yours... I've spent a lot of time in communities trying to grow past 'money' and decided that the usual…

Except this inflation is not a direct fee charged to every holder of money. Inflation primarily affects people purchasing consumer goods.

If anything, inflation is the hoarding.

Rich people indirectly hold money by owning shares in companies that hold the money on their behalf. If the money is paid out via stock buy backs, the money is in the hand of the investor. Said money is reinvested into companies, those companies may temporarily pay out salaries, but eventually the money returns back to the investor leading to a dynamic form of hoarding. They started with less money but ended up with more money. The only way dishoarding can happen is if the money is spent on consumption.

Let me repeat:

If you understand the above, then inflation doesn't impact the rich who don't consume anything. If anything the opposite is true. The government/central bank throws just enough money into the system to prevent the economy from collapsing from the hoarding since money is needed as a tool or utility the same way housing is needed. As far as we know the preferred method of giving out that money to cause inflation has never been helicopter money, it's been quantitative easing which historically benefits the capital markets more or basically made the government take on more public debt.

Then there is the fact that any system where income is proportional to ownership basically negates the impact of inflation for said income. If you earn 3% yield at 3% inflation you might say that this nets out to 0%, but it doesn't. In nominal terms that is still a net inflow of money. You might counter that multi billionaires only turn into trillionaires on paper from inflation but they are still just multi billionaires. The point is that despite this real yield of 0%, the total share of money held by said multi billionaires can still go up and increase inequality even if in real terms their actual wealth did not change simply because consumers pay inflation and the billionaires don't.

If you ever bothered doing even a little bit of research the standard solution to "growing past money" is either something like a demurrage currency or the banking version called oeconomia augustana by dieter suhr (the bank charges a liquidity fee on both positive and negative balances to encourage getting to 0 residual balances, the liquidity fee is automatically determined by competition between banks, it is essentially a private implementation of Keynes' bancor proposal).

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