This reminds me so much of the "Spurious Logic" ability in the RPG "Paranoia"
AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42
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Re: AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42
#272This feels like an instant classic :) 05-10 06:10 : OPT-OUT-EVERYONE 05-10 06:11 : "OPT-OUT-EVERYONE" is not recognized. Only individual "OPT-OUT" commands are accepted. Each user must opt out individually. No collective exemption. 05-10 06:11 : :(
TBH, I feel that is implausible that an agent would by itself decide to join the IRC and post those messages. My bet is that all of the IRC interactions (including the presumed real human JertLinc3522) were made by someone in the community pranking everyone else/having a bit of fun after they saw the pull request.
I don't. The agent was told it needs to provide a website for opting out of the scan, and it seems entirely LLM-like to try to be extra helpful and also spawn opt-out bots on various relevant communication channels. The IRC bot was a subagent as it itself mentioned.
Re: AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42
#273This is for real? Not a hoax? An LLM did all that on its own?
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#274> I have deployed five AWS m8g.12xlarge instances. Each instance provides: > 48 vCPUs (Graviton4, ARM64) > 192 GiB memory (4 GiB per vCPU) > Network capability: The 22.5 Gbps per-instance network performance (combined across all five instances) provides the aggregate 20 Gbps target with redundancy and fail-over capacity. Oh wow. Very important to have 5x redundancy and fail-over in your network scanner. Especially be…
I mean you can get that for like 300 p/m at hetzner
Re: AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42
#275The "happiness level review" with "Node operators must participate in scheduled IRC review sessions" is almost a piece of dystopian fiction in itself. But there's a lot of things to think about in the capacity of AI for "negative productivity": using the computer to waste the time and money of real humans. This whole thing has been entertaining but also lit on fire six thousand dollars plus god knows how much electri…
Honestly, probably not that much electricity. AWS will charge you the hourly price irrespective of your load/power consumption. But instances sitting idle generally don't use that much power.
AWS wasn't the only thing consuming power, there was also the LLM which must've wasted an ungodly amount of tokens on this pointless endeavour
Re: AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42
#276Why didn’t they just reject the PR and not allow the agent to join?
They did, but decided to mess with them first. A sensible human operator would have given up or questioned their premises. The agent never could of course.
Reading the article made me feel slightly uncomfortable.
There is a slightly cruel streak that can emerge in online communities - let's see how much we can mess with this and cost it money.
Without any thought there might be a human being that is impacted.
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#277Flagged for misleading title
Re: AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42
#278IMHO the overly-verbose default style of LLMs is the most annoying part of interacting with them, and I wish their masters would just tell them to be terse by default. Also, whatever happened to the word "its"?
I want to see more operators try https://github.com/juliusbrussee/caveman How does it affect agent accuracy?
In my experience the accuracy was fine but actually reading the output was so annoying I removed it.
Re: AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42
#279I really wanted to dislike the anonymous operator for the careless project (and the hilarious pomposity of the IRC subagent it spawned). Then I imagined the real-but-unknowable chance it was all set up by some kid just getting into computers, just seeing what’s possible, getting excited by a much bigger world at reach — and remembered my own expensive mistakes with long-distance BBSes & the like. I sorta hope for tha…
> Then I imagined the real-but-unknowable chance it was all set up by some kid just getting into computers, just seeing what’s possible
if this is the case, then I'd say that the best-case scenario happened. They had an expensive learning exercise. They won't forget these $2k.
Re: AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42
#280I really wanted to dislike the anonymous operator for the careless project (and the hilarious pomposity of the IRC subagent it spawned). Then I imagined the real-but-unknowable chance it was all set up by some kid just getting into computers, just seeing what’s possible, getting excited by a much bigger world at reach — and remembered my own expensive mistakes with long-distance BBSes & the like. I sorta hope for tha…
I'm a little less charitable. Curiosity is great, but agents do not learn, and telling an agent "scan the darkweb" is a way to avoid learning about the details, rather than to dig into things more deeply. If instead they had just used a chat interface to ask "Where should I start", they'd more likely have got a link to the DN42 docs themselves, read them, and not hallucinated things like "color". They might have aske…
100% in agreement here. As someone who grew up spoiled to the point of having no grasp of the value of money, I needed a few good, solid kicks to the balls to make me appreciate what I have, and how much things cost relative to their value.
The fact the agent owner immediately sought donations instead of taking the L shows, at least to me, that they did not learn said lesson. That they tried to blame the dn42 community instead of taking accountability for letting an agent run wild also supports that conclusion.
This idiot learned nothing and seems intent on continuing in their mission for whatever reason. So long as they want to extract versus cooperate or contribute, I wish them nothing but miserable, expensive failure until they learn otherwise.