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Re: Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails

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They literally just have. The ethos is explained here. If you don't bother to read or grapple with it that isn't on them. https://darioamodei.com/post/policy-on-the-ai-exponential

I said here, a human interacting with comments. You shared a blog post.

All of these negative comments are addressed by the blog post. What do you want them to say, that isn't better answered by the details in their existing communications. No negative comment here was really novel.

Re: Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails

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I said here, a human interacting with comments. You shared a blog post.

All of these negative comments are addressed by the blog post. What do you want them to say, that isn't better answered by the details in their existing communications. No negative comment here was really novel.

The blog post is passive-aggressive and does not address the main points.

Re: Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails

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I wonder who gets to decide which companies make important and critical software and which ones get the scraps later.

No need to wonder. The answer is, the organization making the powerful tool. The people in charge of Anthropic. Not only that, but they've also written at length about exactly what their opinions and values are: https://darioamodei.com/ You may not agree with the decisions that they make, but they're hardly mysterious. Not something to wonder about.

Amodei has no values, he's a hollow husk and he'd sell his family into sex slavery if it could make him a buck.

Re: Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails

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They are the only ones I’ve contacted my bank to get a charge back on…

i wonder if some lawyer may see a consumer protection class action here. In my view the Stuxnet that Anthropic pulled over its customers isn't much different from say those unauthorized extra accounts by Wells Fargo.

exactly my thoughts as well when I got my money back.

Re: Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails

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No need to wonder. The answer is, the organization making the powerful tool. The people in charge of Anthropic. Not only that, but they've also written at length about exactly what their opinions and values are: https://darioamodei.com/ You may not agree with the decisions that they make, but they're hardly mysterious. Not something to wonder about.

Amodei has no values, he's a hollow husk and he'd sell his family into sex slavery if it could make him a buck.

Nonsense. Everyone has values. "Make myself maximum money" is a value. "Amass maximum power over the world's information" is a value. It's clear Amodei certainly follows the latter, and I would soften the former somewhat for him; they did after all decline the Pentagon contract that would have made money but would have meant giving up some control of information.

Re: Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails

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Yeah, I cancelled my Claude subscription yesterday after learning about their attitude of intentionally sabotaging their paying customers. Especially after trying Fable yesterday for some benign projects and being unimpressive relative to opus. Rolling it back is the right move, but I’m still not convinced that using them is in my best interest anymore, I’m investigating open source cloud providers now.

Opus is nowhere close to Fable. Fable feels at least one generation ahead to me. https://x.com/hyperagentapp/status/2064396004032463157 Edit: OpenAI will launch a similar model soon and I can't wait. We are entering a new era of agents.

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Re: Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails

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Read the actual essay. I cannot possibly imagine how you come to that conclusion unless you're just arguing in bad faith.

No. You read the actual essay, then explain how we're supposed to interpret this more charitably: Frontier AI models, like airplanes, should be required to go through technical testing and auditing, and their release should be blocked or reversed as a threat to public safety if they do not meet high standards of safety. I am grateful to see the Trump administration’s Executive Order move incrementally towards a great…

You got baited by a confirmed Anthropic shill, see more info here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48270186

Re: Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails

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No. You read the actual essay, then explain how we're supposed to interpret this more charitably: Frontier AI models, like airplanes, should be required to go through technical testing and auditing, and their release should be blocked or reversed as a threat to public safety if they do not meet high standards of safety. I am grateful to see the Trump administration’s Executive Order move incrementally towards a great…

You got baited by a confirmed Anthropic shill, see more info here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48270186

I hate to accuse people of shilling (and HN hates those accusations as well, policy-wise). And there are ways to defend Amodei's point, or at least there would be if he and his friends hadn't been beating the same drum since GPT2.

But I tend to agree, just saying it's a "pretty reasonable statement" and leaving it at that is beyond the pale for anyone who doesn't have an undisclosed stake in the argument.

Re: Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails

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I think your comment refers to @Someone1234.

It's a very generalized observation. I sometimes think of the HN comment section as the Billionaire's Defense League.

Hardly unique to us, but mostly fair.

(Only "mostly" because if you're here at the right time of day, can also see support for actual communism).

Re: Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails

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No. You read the actual essay, then explain how we're supposed to interpret this more charitably: Frontier AI models, like airplanes, should be required to go through technical testing and auditing, and their release should be blocked or reversed as a threat to public safety if they do not meet high standards of safety. I am grateful to see the Trump administration’s Executive Order move incrementally towards a great…

This is a pretty reasonable statement and I'm not sure how you could interpret this as "sucking up to the admin."

I can read it as both TBH.

First sentence by itself is mundane "regulators are good", which most people agree with, and also libertarians will object to regardless of leader.

Second sentence is obviously sucking up, though is the same level of sucking up found on every stereotypical LinkedIn post.

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