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Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

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Re: Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

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Post by LtWorf »

bigyabai wrote: post #118
steveBK123 wrote: post #103

It's crazy how Raspberry Pi & Apple prices have moved in converging direction. Pi 5 8GB is $200 MacBook Neo 8GB is $600 (probably some edu discount available) Sure 3x the price, but it comes with - 256GB SSD, battery, display, keyboard, trackpad.. So the Pi has slowly become too expensive for weird one-off projects and also price competitive with a cheap Mac by the time you add all the stuff you need to use it as a c…

I dunno, it's not unexpected. Smartphone hardware has been cheaper, more proliferate and faster than Raspberry Pis for a while. The Pi Foundation finds a market by supporting Linux, documenting GPIO and Arduino/hat ecosystems, and advocating for a hackier, server-like approach with the cheap hardware. Game consoles, smartphones and consumer laptops are often powerful, but priced taking the customer's service revenue…

Phones don't have any I/O and android is a pain in the ass to experiment with. Plus by default it will do things like powersave.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

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Post by LtWorf »

roody15 wrote: post #125
steveBK123 wrote: post #103

It's crazy how Raspberry Pi & Apple prices have moved in converging direction. Pi 5 8GB is $200 MacBook Neo 8GB is $600 (probably some edu discount available) Sure 3x the price, but it comes with - 256GB SSD, battery, display, keyboard, trackpad.. So the Pi has slowly become too expensive for weird one-off projects and also price competitive with a cheap Mac by the time you add all the stuff you need to use it as a c…

Education price for schools is 499$ for the Neo. Have to agree no longer sure the pi makes much sense at this price point.

Except that a rpi is a device made for learning things and a Neo is a device made to be a door to a shop.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

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Post by LtWorf »

taffydavid wrote: post #255

Pi's attraction was that it was a cheap hobby computer. I could buy a whole laptop for that money. I know RAM prices are crazy right now, but I just bought a 16gb Ryzen 7 motherboard to repair an IdeaPad for €70

But no ethernet port, no GPIO, no fanless.

It's comparing two completely different usecases.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

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justin66 wrote: post #204
NavinF wrote: post #176

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It's $37 new incl shipping on US eBay. Initial retail price was $23 incl shipping, see launch thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29025579 So a 61% price hike over 5 years, of which 24% was just inflation. If the total price really went up 200% in your country, that's exceptional and probably caused by policies unique to your country. btw you can't compare prices without shipping because there was never an o…

Weird. I can get one at the local Microcenter - with headers, the only one they're selling right now - for $18. They have a bunch in stock.

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Re: Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

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Post by NavinF »

geerlingguy wrote: post #227
justin66 wrote: post #204

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Weird. I can get one at the local Microcenter - with headers, the only one they're selling right now - for $18. They have a bunch in stock.

Yeah, for those with a Micro Center, the Pi pricing is in line with MSRPs. A lot of people buy from vendors on Amazon or eBay, which do not have to stick to MSRPs, and they use those prices as "gospel". Sadly, for some people, those prices are the best they can find for a shipped product in their location, so I don't blame them.

Can you buy out their inventory, sell them for $36 online, and help everyone save a dollar, or is this the same old "Retailers treated it as a loss leader"?

Amazon/eBay prices are indeed gospel. You can ship something like this across the country for <$5 so location doesn't matter unless you're talking tariffs

Re: Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

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Post by crest »

LtWorf wrote: post #274
taffydavid wrote: post #255

Pi's attraction was that it was a cheap hobby computer. I could buy a whole laptop for that money. I know RAM prices are crazy right now, but I just bought a 16gb Ryzen 7 motherboard to repair an IdeaPad for €70

But no ethernet port, no GPIO, no fanless. It's comparing two completely different usecases.

I can get a (used) fanless laptop and a USB GPIO/I2C/SPI/CAN/whatever adapter for that money. Raspberry Pis started at ~$30 for a minimal configuration. They were so cheap that they killed the whole overpriced range of $100 to $200 dev boards by vendors that tried to make money of dev boards for their chips.

They have to be cheap enough that tinkers leave them in their projects.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

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Post by vladak »

zarzavat wrote: post #207
pibaker wrote: post #139

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Some people seem to think raspberry pi is a consumer tech company and whenever a new model is released, the old one will be discontinued. They will complain about the product being changed and the company robbing them of a cheap SBC. I can only assume they don't actually work with the pi because if you spend just a minute looking at any reseller's inventory or even just the official website you will see they still ma…

I don't understand why it's so difficult for people to understand. If you're using the Pi as a microcontroller that you can run Python on, then just get the cheapest Pi that meets your needs. If you're using the Pi for computationally expensive tasks then pay more money and get the fast one. Personally I have a Pi 5 and it's perfect for me because I want small size but high performance. People say "just buy a real co…

For the microcontroller use case with Python, the alternative might be to use actual microcontroller that runs CircuitPython/MicroPython. Personally I find it a bit better due to no need to manage/update the Linux distro.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

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Post by Pavilion2095 »

roody15 wrote: post #125
steveBK123 wrote: post #103

It's crazy how Raspberry Pi & Apple prices have moved in converging direction. Pi 5 8GB is $200 MacBook Neo 8GB is $600 (probably some edu discount available) Sure 3x the price, but it comes with - 256GB SSD, battery, display, keyboard, trackpad.. So the Pi has slowly become too expensive for weird one-off projects and also price competitive with a cheap Mac by the time you add all the stuff you need to use it as a c…

Education price for schools is 499$ for the Neo. Have to agree no longer sure the pi makes much sense at this price point.

These are two very different devices that serve two very different purposes. The comparison is flawed.
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