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MacBook Neo is so popular that Apple doubled production

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Re: MacBook Neo is so popular that Apple doubled production

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Post by duckmysick »

Drunk_Engineer wrote: post #97
thewebguyd wrote: post #55

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> The thing about Apple is that as the "IT" guy for my family, its ecosystem is the one which needs the least attention from me. This is true in business/enterprise IT also. Any big company that's done a switch, or at least offered an employee choice, almost immediately saw a huge drop in help desk workload from mac users. Legacy win32 apps aside, it's baffling to me that Windows is still the dominant share of comput…

Enterprise Mac still has occasional problems -- mainly due to Microsoft crapware IT departments insist on installing.

What's the proper way of managing Mac endpoints?

Re: MacBook Neo is so popular that Apple doubled production

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Post by regularfry »

lowbloodsugar wrote: post #66
saltyoldman wrote: post #30

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I think the craziest thing is that a macbook for $599 that's more powerful than nearly anything they had offered a decade ago (except probably ram amount), and even after adjusting for inflation (which is like 35% from 10 years ago) means the price dropped at least $1500 for a comparable. (People may correct me if I'm wrong)

>a decade ago It's more powerful than my $4000 M1 Max until it heat soaks.

Is it? I had it pegged as pretty much neck-and-neck with the 8GB M1 Macbook Pro that work gave me.

Re: MacBook Neo is so popular that Apple doubled production

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Post by cyberpunk »

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #21

Not surprising. I've been looking at potentially getting one for my mother. Her last Windows 10 laptop is pretty long in the tooth, and there's no way in hell I'm getting her one with Windows 11 on it. The Neo seems to fill the same niche that the Chromebook once did, and, since she's already in the Apple ecosystem due to her iPhone, an "Apple Chromebook" seems like an attractive proposition.

iPad is the happy path for parents I've found. Zero support calls, just the occasional "This is spam, right?" question.

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Post by baq »

kristianp wrote: post #217
Drunk_Engineer wrote: post #97

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Enterprise Mac still has occasional problems -- mainly due to Microsoft crapware IT departments insist on installing.

Microsoft or giant piles of poo like crowdstrike?

Ask serious security folks at serious orgs if they can afford to not run crowdstrike regardless of OS.

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Post by robertjpayne »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #251
bigyabai wrote: post #142

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Apple has taken advantage of that for the past 2 decades, to the tune of a minority share in the PC market. Meanwhile Nvidia is happily cresting what, 5 trillion in valuation? It's a weird time to be an Apple shareholder.

Apple M series are competitive in inference at least. I wish Apple would just aim their chip people at NVIDIA in everything else. They are probably the only ones that have the talent, resources, and capital to do that.

I'm quite happy Apple stays focused on their products. They enter a market when they can own it end-to-end -- it makes no sense for them to all of a sudden become an AI chip house or AI server house.

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Post by thewebguyd »

duckmysick wrote: post #271
Drunk_Engineer wrote: post #97

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Enterprise Mac still has occasional problems -- mainly due to Microsoft crapware IT departments insist on installing.

What's the proper way of managing Mac endpoints?

Any modern MDM like Jamf, Kandji, Mosyle, etc. + the identity/IAM of your choice (most commonly Entra or Okta)

Re: MacBook Neo is so popular that Apple doubled production

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Post by regularfry »

vel0city wrote: post #230
benoau wrote: post #73

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...and yet this sparked a revolution called netbooks that took over a full 20% of the laptop market at their peak. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netbook

Yes, a ton of people bought them. Then they took them home and used them. Then they bought something else. Now we don't really have mass-production netbooks anymore.

Part of that was incidental factors. The 701 happened partly because of a glut of cheap, standardised screens designed for that first generation of in-car dashboard sat-nav systems.

It didn't help that those screens weren't particularly good.

Re: MacBook Neo is so popular that Apple doubled production

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Post by robterrell »

duckmysick wrote: post #271
Drunk_Engineer wrote: post #97

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Enterprise Mac still has occasional problems -- mainly due to Microsoft crapware IT departments insist on installing.

What's the proper way of managing Mac endpoints?

JAMF is popular. I've heard of Kandji too.

Re: MacBook Neo is so popular that Apple doubled production

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Post by adgjlsfhk1 »

philistine wrote: post #197
adgjlsfhk1 wrote: post #85

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I think the clear demonstration of this is how small Apple's motherboard is for the neo (and other M series) compared to everyone else). It really seems like the PC makers don't understand the benefits of low power chips sufficiently. If you cap your chips TDP such that it can be cooled passively, you save money on heatsink, fan, vents, power circuitry (e.g. fewer capacitors), battery size, etc.

You are so right, and I blame some of the thinking on this very website. People are adamant that they need to upgrade the RAM, change the storage, and replace the battery on their laptops. Adamant . All that means that you need a separate memory controller, a separate this and that. It adds up, and PC makers are forced to put in a fan. On its face, it doesn't sound stupid at all. The thinking that you need to be able…

Counterpoint: storage and ports should be upgradable. Ram and CPU both last forever, but drives die and ports wear out.
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